Friday 9 January 2009

DEBATE ON MARY, QUEEN OF HEAVEN GROUP ON RASA, CC, THEOLOGY, ETC.

From Glenn King:



Bryant, you really think that she is pulling your leg? She

has not been promoting her own divinity



RASA: THERE ARE MANY QUESTIONS YOU SHOULD ANSWER. IS NOT THE COMPLETE AND
TOTAL GOD IN EACH AND EVERY HUMAN AND IN ALL CREATION? IS GOD ABSENT? WHEN
A HUMAN REALIZES WHO THEY ARE, THEIR TRUE IDENTITY, THEY ARE GOD, LIKE
JESUS. WHEN YOU HAVE SEEN ME, YOU HAVE SEEN THE MOTHER.



for the last

few months? She has not been teaching a religion of

grovelling for sexually masochistic men?



RASA: A LIE, I DISCOURAGE ALL FEMDOM ACTIVITIES AND A REQUIREMENT OF BEING
MY DEVOTEE IS THEY HAVE TO BE SPIRITUAL AND NOT ATTRACTED TO ME FOR FEMDOM,
THESE MEN FALL AWAY QUICKLY AS THEY ARE ATTACHED TO THE FLESH. THIS IS NAME
CALLING.



OK. I guess

I had it all wrong. Rasa has not been promoting herself

as a female Jesus and Messiah the last several months.



RASA: JESUS, YES, IN MY OWN FLESH, I AM HE.. I AM IN HIS SPIRIT, I HAVE
BECOME HIM, I HAVE HIS DIVINE STIGMATA OF THE INTERIOR KIND. READ THIS:



http://www.womanthouartgod.com/theology.php#divinestigmata



We need not take Nicholas's visions and Rasa's commentary

on them seriously.



RASA: THERE ARE SOME WHO DO TAKE THEM SERIOUSLY, MICHAEL KRAUSE, RALEIGH,
SERGIO, TARA, KUN KIN OTHERS.



Rasa is just playing a big joke

on every one. Nothing to be taken seriously. Rasa is not

to be taken seriously. Wow. I am glad to know that.



Bryant (the owner who is actually a tolerant person, allows many opinions
and perceptions on this Marian group)



She can't be serious. That is why I have gone along with this for so long.
I think it's funny. It just gets to be a little much sometimes, but that is
the way these things go. I don't feel threatened by her,



RASA: GOOD POINT, THE OTHERS ARE. WHY? WHAT AM I THREATENING? THEIR
CHERISHED PERCEPTIONS. THAT IS WHAT RELIGIOUS WARS ARE ALL ABOUT. IF YOU
BELIEVE DIFFERENTLY THAN I DO, YOU HAVE TO BE MARGINALIZED OR WORSE. YOU
HAVE TO BE CONDEMNED, ATTACKED, CALLED CRAZY, A HERETIC, AND YOU HAVE TO BE
OUSTED IN SOME WAY. IS THIS TOLERANCE? THERE IS ONE GOD, LET' LEAVE THE
VIOLENCE OUT OF IT, LET OTHERS WORSHIP AS THEY PLEASE.



nor do I get upset by all of this. Frankly, I used to block her,



RASA: I NEVER KNEW THAT! KUDOS TO YOU FOR LETTING ME THROUGH!



but it occured to me that people post all sorts of nonsense here anyway,
much of it a lot more offensive than anything she comes up with.



But as far as her little guy who claims to have fallen under her spell, this
looks suspiciously like a sockpuppet job to me, and that is a little much to
take.



RASA: WHY? WHY IS HE A SOCKPUPPET? DO YOU STILL FEEL THAT WAY AFTER HE IS
POSTING? SHALL I BRING FORTH THE OTHER DEVOTEES?



But, I am not going to admonish anyone of anything or anything like that. I
just think that we should be open about what is going on here. Rasa is a
fascinating person, no doubt about it. Her writing and her artwork and her
whole act are nothing short of genius.



RASA: WOW, THANKS. MY SITE COST $50,000. AND TOOK TWO PEOPLE FULL TIME, 2
½ YEARS TO CREATE, WITH MYSELF AS THE BRAIN OR VISIONARY. I STARTED WITHOUT
A DEFINITE VISION, BUT BY PUTTING MY FOOT TO THE PATH, THE VISION CAME AS I
WENT ALONG. WHAT WOULD IT BE? CHRISTIAN? YOGA? QUASI CATHOLIC OR WHAT?
ALL OF THE ABOVE, YOGA, CHRISTIANITY AND MATRIARCHY, IT CAME OUT ALRIGHT!



She is a complete work of art in every sense. But she isn't a goddess,



RASA: WHAT IS A GODDESS? SPIRITUAL WOMEN AND EVEN WOMEN OF THE FLESH ARE
CALLED GODDESSES. WHAT IS YOUR DEFINITION? I DON'T LIKE THE TERM, I WOULD
RATHER BE CALLED THE FORM OF GOD, JUST PLAIN GOD, HAHAHA.



no matter what she or her little sockpuppet say. I got thrown off of a
group about "angels" one time because there was someone there claiming to be
the authentic voice of Saint Michael the Archangel. When I told this person
that she was a fraud, the moderator threw me off of the list.



RASA: YOU AND ME BOTH



On this list and the other one that Tyler founded and later turned over to
me, Guadalupe_Aztec_Goddess



RASA: I USED TO BELONG TO THAT BECAUSE MY MAIN SOURCE OF DEVOTION IS OUR
LADY OF GUADALUPE - ALL MY BOOKS ARE DEDICATED TO HER!!! DO YOU WANT ANY
OF MY BOOKS? IF YOU ARE NICE, & GIVE ME YOUR ADDRESS, I MIGHT SEND YOU ONE!



it's called, I have not tried to interfere with anyone's posting, unless it
looked like plainly it was spam or else it looked like flaming and
intolerance (plus, I don't care too much for prosylitizing by Hindus and
Muslims because that is completely off-topic). So I am not going to censor
anyone (unless they get to be completely out of hand). But it behooves us to
call a spade a spade in this case.



RASA: AND WHAT IS THIS SPADE CALLED?



And as for Rasa vis-a-vis myself, I think that she will appreciate my
fairness in all of this and not decide to criticize my actions in any way.



Bryant



From BRAD:

Raza, Please recite the following prayer, " Prayer for Holy Perpetual
Mystical Union." Composed by Brad T Lifto

(Follows a number of prayers, similar to those I used to pray an hour a day
from a Catholic book, thank you Brad, it is kind of you to share this...)



Bryant Holman suggest Brad and I trade prayers, ahahaha, good idea!!!



"ALLOWING HERSELF TO STAND IN THE OPEN AND BE USED A TARGET."



San Sebastian, full of the arrows of his martyrers now comes to mind.
Catholic imagery is so dramatic!



Maybe you could set your e-mail posts up to have black backgrounds and white
letters, and just before you send them change them back to normal if you
want. Typos are so messy! Just a suggestion to help you save your eyes.....



"Boss"? Do I get the be the boss now? I am seeing irony in this, too. Didn't
you used to be a dominatix? You like being on the other end or something?
That is not all that uncomon, is it? I am wondering all this, by the way,
because, frankly, I do find you to be simply fascinating, if all of this is
rooted in your Catholic upbringing. Do you think that some of those nuns
maybe had a thing about pain or something? Like when they were disciplining
the naughty children in school there? Do you think it had some sort of
effect on the sexual sort of sensibilities of these children once they
reached "maturity"?



RASA: BEING PUNISHED BY FEMALES AND THEN SOMEHOW RECEIVING PLEASURE HAS
TURNED SOME MEN INTO MASOCHISTS. I HAVE HAD THEM CONFESS. WE ALL REALLY
WANT HAPPINESS AND PLEASURE, PAIN IS A MEANS TO AN END. LOOK AT THE SAINTS,
LOOK AT JESUS. THE SAINTS ARE NOT MASOCHISTS, WHATEVER ANYONE MIGHT SAY,
THEY ARE LOOKING FOR THE PLEASURES IN ETERNAL BEATITUDE. I HAVE TAKEN A LOT
OF CRAP FOR MY ETERNAL BEATITUDE.



Is it okay if I just sort of interview you on a variety of topics? Like, for
instance, did you have any really famous clients?



RASA: CLIENTS OF WHAT KIND? I HAVE THE CELEBRITY SOULS IN PURGATORY. IN
THE FLESH, THAT IS ANOTHER TOPIC FOR ANOTHER DAY SOMEPLACE ELSE. IT IS
REALLY, NONE OF ANYONE'S BUSINESS, THAT IS CALLED PRURIENT AND SALIENT
CURIOSITY.



Dick Cheney or someone like that? Did you (or do you) know Jeff Gannon? Did
you ever wear one of those rubber nun costumes? Ever do a priest? A bishop?
A cardinal, maybe?? How about a nun (a real one, I mean)?



RASA: OH, HOW HUMOROUS YOU ARE. I DID TRY AND JOIN A CONVENT, AND WAS
REFUSED, IN 1983. LATER GOD GAVE ME THE MONEY TO BUY A HOUSE AND WITHOUT
KNOWING IT, I BOUGHT A PROPERTY IN THE SAME TOWN AS THEY - ABOUT 10 MILES
AWAY, AND ONLY LATER LEARNED I WAS IN THEIR TOWN. GOD TOLD ME IF I BECAME A
NUN, I WOULDN'T BE HAPPY. GOD GAVE ME THE MONEY FOR NEARLY 50 ACRES,
RIVERFRONT AND AN ISLAND, I AM ALL ALONE HERE, CELIBATE, AN ANCHORITE,
MINDING MY OWN BUSINESS, NO SEX FOR 29 YEARS, AND AS HAPPY AS I AM ALLOWED
TO BE IN THIS MISERABLE LIFE AND UNHAPPY PLANET. I BELIEVE I AM PROBABLY
HAPPIER THAN 999 OUT OF A THOUSAND, IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT I AM THE
UNIVERSAL TARGET AND SCAPEGOAT FOR EVERYONE ELSE.

RASA

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