SHRI SURYA, RASA DISCUSS WAYS TO SERVE GOD ON EARTH - ALSO RE. WICKED
From: prakki surya
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [isawgodandlived] GURURASA ADVISE TO SINNER.....
my dear friend respected Smt. RASA
Lord comes in human form to propagate the divine knowledge and to
uplift the people. Lord Jesus propagated the divine knowledge only.
Lord Krishna preached Gita. Mohd. Prophet also preached divine
knowledge. Adi Sankara also preached the divine knowledge by walking
all over India 3 times.
*** I WROTE AN ARTICLE CALLED 'SHOULD A GURU PROMOTE HERSELF.' ADI
SANKARA WALKED INDIA THREE TIMES? THERE IS PROOF RIGHT THERE, A GURU
MUST PROMOTE! A GURU MUST FIND THE LOST SHEEP AND I WROTE ANOTHER
ARTICLE THAT SAYS, 'WHAT IS THE SECRET OF SAVING SOULS? - GO TO THEM!'
Lord Jesus could only tell Bible. There were many human beings and
priests of churches during that time. But, the preaching of Jesus are
only prevailing now.
The word of Lord alone can induce bliss in you & generate love towards
Like that Lord Krishna could only preach Gita.
*** THIS IS TRUE AS IN THOSE DAYS THEY HAD NO INTERNET (OR WIDE
COMMUNICATON NETWORKS), BUT TODAY WE HAVE INTERNET! TODAY THE GURU
CAN SIT IN ONE PLACE AN BY INTERNET REACH MILLIONS! GLORY TO GOD'S
COMMUNICATON NETWORK! LET IT BE USED FOR GOOD!
That time also many saints were there. It does mean that Lord can only
tell about Himself i.e., He only Knows about Himself.
*** VERY GOOD POINT. ANOTHER VEDANTA SCHOLAR TOLD US THAT WE CAN
ONLY REPEAT WHAT IS IN THE SCRIPTURE, BUT I TOLD HIM, ARE YOU NOT THE
LIVING SCRIPTURE WHEN YOU ARE ONE WITH GOD?
This is actually the identification of Lord.
Human beings are trying to understand and sometimes may write
commentaries on the word of Lord. But, how do you say that they
understood the concept properly and the concepts written by them are
To achieve the grace of Lord is the goal of life.
*** WHEN YOU HAVE ACHIEVED THE GRACE, THEN YOU SPEAK IN THE GRACE
AND GRACE EMITS THROUGH YOU.
One can get the grace of the Lord by serving Him when He comes in
*** IT IS EASY TO WORSHIP AN INVISIBLE AND INFINITE GOD. BUT WHEN
HE/SHE APPEARS ON EARTH, SERVING HIM/HER TAKES SOME WORK AND SOME
SACRIFICE! THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TROUBLE DOING!
This service consists of Karma Phala Tyaga (donating money for His
mission) and Karma Sanyasa (spending time physically by
participating), put together called SERVICE.
Ex: if I see the president of my country, what is the benefit I am
going to get out of it? Just a momentary happiness. But, if I do
something by which I can get his soft corner that helps me in getting
some favour from him.
Hence, catch hold of Human Incarnation and serve Him here itself. You
can get liberation here itself. Liberation when you are alive.
*** THAT IS TRUE. EVERYONE DIES, AND WHEN THEY ARE NOT LIBERATED,
THEY GO TO PURGATORY. BUT YOU CAN PAY FOR YOUR SINS HERE ON EARTH,
GET LIBERATED, AND GO STRAIGHT TO HEAVEN WHEN YOU DIE.
Swamiji is abode of knowledge and HE is the incarnation of Lord Datta.
When Lord gives the knowledge (like Jesus, Krishna, Swami etc.,),
there will be clarity in that because HE HIMSELF is very clear unlike
*** WHEN THE LIGHT OF GOD IS IN A HUMAN, YOU ARE SPEAKING TO GOD!
The mission of Swami is to liberate all the sincere & interested
people. Swami gave detailed discourses on these topics, like how to
identify Satguru (human incarnation), how to get His grace etc. All
these can be read from the website (universal-spirituality.org). Such
knowledge only needs to be practiced and the results will flow
*** I HAVE BEEN TELLING MY DEVOTEES IT IS AUTOMATIC WHEN THEY
INSTALL ME INTO THEIR HEARTS....THOSE WHO DID IT SINCERELY HAVE GOTTEN
MARVELOUS RESULTS! THOSE WHO DID IT IN A LUKEWARM WAY GOT LUKEWARM
RESULTS. GOD WILL SERVE YOU AS YOU SERVE GOD!
Ex: When one is working in an office, at the end of month the
organization is giving salary automatically. One need not remind them.
Likewise here also a human being should put effort from his side
without thinking of results.
*** 'TAKE CARE OF THE LORD'S BUSINESS AND HE WILL TAKE CARE OF YOURS!'
ST. TERESA OF AVILA (RASA VON WERDER)
posted by: His servant
at the lotus feet of shri datta swami
GURU HANDLING OF WICKED WRATH OF GOD EMPLOYED
Submitted by Rasa Von WerderVERY GOOD SHRI SURYA! LIKE I SAID, I MUST
TAKE THE TIME TO WRITE A RESPONSE. RIGHT NOW I WROTE 2 ARTICLES
YESTERDAY THAT MUST BE WIDELY POSTED. INDEED, THE JEALOUSY FACTOR! THE
RAGE AND BITTERNESS OF THOSE WHO SEE THE GURU AND THEY SEE THE GURU IS
STRONG AND CONFIDENT AND THE GURU SEEMS SO POWERFUL. SOON THE POWER OF
GOD IS DEMONSTRATED IN THE GURU! PEOPLE ARE GETTING SAVED AND
ENLIGHTENED! THEY ARE HAVING VISIONS AND DREAMS, AND PRAYERS ARE
ANSWERED. THE GURU PAID A HARD PRICE FOR THE ANOINTING, THE
GIFTS.....DIED TO SELF, MARTYRDOM.... THE JEALOUS NOW SEEK THE FAME
AND 'POWER' OF THE GURU BUT THEY CANNOT, WILL NOT PAY THE PRICE! THEY
WILL NOT DIE TO SELF OR RECEIVE MARTYRDOM. THEY WANT TO KEEP THEIR
FLESH, EGO, PRIDE AND WORDLY HONOR, AND NOW, THEY WANT THE POSITION OF
SOME CAN GET EXTERIOR POSITION, BUT IT WILL NOT LAST. SOME CANNOT GET
EVEN THAT. THEY GET NOTHING. SO WHAT DO THEY DO? THEY WANT TO DESTROY
THE IMAGE AND REPUTATION OF THE GURU BY SLANDER, LIES, INNUENDOS AND
TWISTING THE LIFE OF THE GURU AND SPREADING THIS AROUND. THEY ARE
FILLED WITH RAGE AT THE GURU, BECAUSE THEY CANNOT HAVE THE POWER OF
THE GURU. THE GURU TRIES TO REASON WITH SUCH PEOPLE BUT SOME OF THEM
ARE DEMONIC. SOME ARE SO STUBBORN ONLY PUNISHMENT WILL BRING THEM
DOWN. THE GURU HAS POWER AND USES THE POWER OF GOD, IN THESE CASES, TO
PUNISH, TO TRANSMIT THE WRATH OF GOD. IN SOME CASES, SOME OF THESE CAN
BE SAVED BECAUSE THE GURU STILL LOVES THE WICKED, HOPING FOR THEIR
SALVATION. LET US HOPE MANY WICKED WILL BE SAVED AND LOVE OUR LORD GOD!