Re: VIOLENCE-IS IT A MALE ISSUE OR A HUMAN ISSUE? GOOD ANSWER FROM WILLIAM BOND

RASA: THIS ARTICLE BY WILLIAM BOND ON PATRIARCHY AND ITS VIOLENCE IS THE BEST OVERVIEW OF THE SUBJECT I HAVE EVER READ! CONGRATULATIONS TO WILLIAM~

Hi

To give my opinion in this debate, I personally believe that Matriarchy will not only free Women but will free men as well. This is because patriarchy not only oppresses Women but also men.

The lie given out by patriarchal propaganda is that men are `naturally' brutal and violent. Whereas what is really happening is that in patriarchy, we are all caught in a vicious cycle of violence and hatred. Obviously if a father beats up his sons, then his sons think this behaviour is `normal' and will beat up other people and later their own sons. Perpetuating a cycle of violence.

I personally wasn't beaten by my father, but I was made to feel ashamed of myself for not being a macho boy. And I know I wasn't alone in this, most boys I talked with had problems living up to the macho image they were suppose have. And this macho image was all around us, it was in the books and comics we read, and in the films we saw, so we all felt we had to be like John Wayne and become `real' men.

Patriarchy was started by bandits and criminals. These were men that were banished from the first Matriarchal civilizations for their anti-social behaviour and discovered they could make an easy living robbing other people.



RASA: CAN YOU GIVE ME DOCUMENTATION ON THIS?



What these men discovered was that violence gave them power. You can make other people do what you want if you
inflict violence on them, and you can have sex by raping women.

Having men like this who were able to rob, assault, rape and even murder other people with impunity, made this lifestyle attractive to other men. So these men began to join together in bandit gangs. In time these gangs became so strong that instead of robbing people they devised a protection racket. So people in villages and towns had to pay their local bandit chief, so that they will leave them alone. This was the first taxation.

These bandit leaders were not content with this began to interfere in the lives of the people more and more, setting themselves up as rulers and living within the community they `owned'. These bandits also discovered that their power depended on their violence so it was important that to keep their bandit group strong they had to train them in violence. Because not only did they fear a uprising



RASA: SOUNDS LIKE THE “KING ALFRED PLAN” FEARING AN UPRISING BY BLACKS, THEY ARE READY TO DO THEM IN BEFORE THE BLACKS HAVE EVEN DONE ANYTHING.



by the people they ruled, but they feared being taken over by other bandit gangs.

So the men in bandit gangs were trained in violence, which means they had to inflict violence onto each other. As it was discovered that the more violent a gang became the more fearful the people were of them and the more successful they were in any conflict with other bandit gangs. Because these gang were fighting against other bandit gangs, they needed more men of violence. So they began to recruit men within the communities they ruled and teach them to be violent.

The communities would still have been ruled by Women and they would have objected to this, as they didn't want to see their sons turned into violent monsters. So violence would then be used against Women to undermine their power over their own sons.

In time these bandit chiefs became kings, and emperors and patriarchy even took over the religious life of the people creating male gods and male priests. They then set out to conquer and create a patriarchal world.

This then is why violence, fear, intimidation and hatred are the foundation of patriarchy, and men are the victims of this as well as Women. And it is this cycle of violence and fear that keeps patriarchy going.

In a world of fear and violence the most aggressive and violent people are the ones that rule the world. This is why men rule our world and not Women. If you brutalise boys they learn to hate, and can learn to be so violent that they will kill other people. If you brutalise girls it is true they also can learn to be violent but they are restrained by their maternal instincts. Yes, there have been Women who have committed murder and even killed their own children, but this doesn't compare with men who have done the same thing. In Britain today on average two Women a week are murdered by their male partners but very rarely are men murdered by Women.

This is the problem we all have, we are all stuck in this vicious cycle of fear and violence. To the degree that even if we have a patriarchal ruler of a country who is a loving and caring man, he would find it difficult to stop this cycle of violence. This is
because he knows that if he stops all the propaganda that encourages boy to be violent he then would fear that if his country were invaded, he would have no young man willing to fight in a war and defend the
country.

As I have pointed out before men are the natural submissive sex, because they are naturally very obedient, and very easy trained and indoctrinated.



RASA: INTERESTING THOUGHT. INDEED I CAN SEE IT; MALES CAN BE TRAINED OR BRAINWASHED MORE EASILY THAN CAN WOMEN.



They can be trained to become violent monsters or trained to become loving and caring people.

We have to show up patriarchal propaganda that it is `natural' for men to be the dominant sex, and that it is `natural' for men to be violent.



RASA: HOWARD ZINN AGREES WITH YOU, HE IS EVER PREACHING THIS IS MIND CONTROL IN THE MILITARY.



Once people can see through all this patriarchal propaganda then we have a choice whether we want to continue in our brutal patriarchal world or live in a more peaceful and loving Matriarchal world.



RASA: FULLY AGREED

william



VIOLENCE—IS IT A MALE ISSUE OR A HUMAN ISSUE?

BELOW IS A LETTER FROM DR. JAMES W. PRESCOTT AND MY ANSWER BELOW HIS. THIS WILL TAKE TIME TO DISCUSS FULLY - I WANT WILLIAM BOND AND MELODY HART TO TAKE PART IN THIS (HOW ABOUT DR. MICHAEL PARENTI, WILL YOU HONOR US?). IT WILL BE A "GENDER WAR" DISCUSSION, WITH THE "MALES WHO FEEL MALES ARE NOT THE PROBLEM" VS "THE FEMALES AND THEIR FRIENDS WHO FEEL MALES ARE INDEED THE PROBLEM".

I WILL FORMULATE THE ISSUES AND THE QUESTIONS IN THE OPENING SALVO OF MY ANSWER.

DR. PRESCOTT, YOU GAVE ME AN ATTACHMENT WHICH I CANNOT COPY, SO I DO NEED THE LINK FOR FURTHER DISSEMINATION. (WILL EXPLAIN THE MATERIAL NEXT TIME)



5 Sep 08.....Rasa--.....You state:



“I DO MAKE THIS OBSERVATION, WHICH I GET FROM WILLIAM BOND. IT IS THIS: WHEN MALES ARE BRUTALIZED THEY BECOME BRUTAL, WHEN WOMEN ARE BRUTALIZED, THEY DO NOT. WHY? WOMEN HAVE THE MATERNAL INSTINCT, WHICH IS COMPASSION AND CARING, MALES DO NOT, PERHAPS JUST A TINY SHRED.”



DR. PRESCOTT SAYS: This is incorrect. Brutalization is only part of the story. It is the failure of the affectional bond in the maternal-infant/child relationship and in the teen sexual relationship that drives violence--homicide and suicide. Females are affected as well as males. Motherless mothers are violent toward their own offspring. Maternal instinct is destroyed by failed mother love. See attachment.



A recent story in The Washington Post describes how a mother of a one month old infant was microwaved to death for fear that her partner would leave her if he discovered that the infant was not his. An unconfirmed story, which is not important. How can a mother place her own infant in a microwave oven to be burned to death?



Violence among women, particularly toward their own children is increasing--child abuse and neglect and this violence is equally shared by both parents. Culture has failed both mothers and fathers for the reasons that I have made clear and we have created a culture of violence that I am afraid is too late to reverse.



Could not disagree more with your statement: AND SO ONCE AGAIN, THE POINT IS MADE, THAT BRUTALITY IS A MALE PROBLEM, NOT A HUMAN PROBLEM.



It is, in fact, a problem of homo sapiens, and it is the failure of maternal love and sexual love, created by culture, that is the core of our problem.



Please share with your readers.



Best,.....James



James W. Prescott, Ph.D.
http://www.violence.de
http://www.ttfuture.org/Prescott
http://www.montagunocircpetition.org



TO FRIENDS AND DR. PRESCOTT:



Indeed I am familiar with your studies, and I was hoping long ago that you would jump into discussion when I was referencing your work continuously. Of course we have the book where your profound studies are featured: “Breastfeeding is Lovemaking between Mother and Child.” See the preview and order from Lulu.com. I just noticed yesterday it is no longer on Amazon.com, must find out what happened, some fluke in the bookwork at Lulu perhaps.



Here is our problem, Dr. Prescott. It is this: ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE VS STATISTICS. And so, citing individual cases of child abuse by females, does not the story change; the violence being PREDOMINANTLY in the untrustworthy hands of males.



After all, as I said, most violence is done IN THE NAME OF WAR, be it tanks and guns, atom bombs, bio-warfare, mind control body abuse warfare testing laboratories, etc. This is all instigated BY THE MALE MENTALITY CALLED PATRIARCHY – RULE OF THE FATHERS, and not by women’s MATRIARCHAL CULTURE – RULE OF THE MOTHERS.



You and I had some good discussions by phone, Dr. Prescott. I did ask you about the effect of the failed Mother love on boys versus girls, and you said your studies did not reflect WHICH GENDER SUFFERED THE MOST.



Your zeitgeist does not include a MATRIARCHAL VS PATRIARCHAL perspective, and you speak of CULTURE as if it was CULTURE ENDOWED BY WOMEN AS WELL AS MEN BUT THAT IS NOT SO.



Women are living UNDER THE SIEGE OF MEN – like many great scholars, you don’t even take this into consideration, and that is this:



THE PRESENT CULTURE IS THAT OF A MALE MENTALITY, NOT A FEMALE MENTALITY. MALES BEGAN TO BRUTALIZE WOMEN 5,000 YEARS AGO (VIOLENCE, RAPE, MURDER, THEN INSITUTIONALIZED DISCRIMINATION AND MIND CONTROL), AND KEPT THEM UNDER SIEGE THROUGH FORCE. THE PRESENT INSTITUTIONS OF PATRIARCHY, WHICH INCLUDE WAR, INDUSTRY, MEDICAL SCIENCE, EDUCATION, TECHNOLOGY, AND ENTERTAINMENT, ARE ALL MALE MENTALITY, NOT FEMALE. FEMALES ARE INVOLVED BUT NOT IN LEADERSHIP POSITIONS, IT IS ALL MALE CONCEPTS—TO THE TOTAL DETERIMENT OF HUMANITY I MIGHT ADD.



And so to say “culture” you and most other academics, scholars, use the word as if it included women’s mentality, WHEN IT DOES NOT, the correct term to be used is PATRIARCHAL CULTURE.



If ever one studies the great women leaders, scholars, (Dr. Mary Daly, Maria Gimbutas, Merlin Stone, Riane Eisler, Z Budapest, numerous others!) one sees instantly that FEMALE MENTALITY, CONCEPTS, CULTURE, ZEITGEIST, IS NOT ONLY WHOLLY DIFFERENT FROM MALES, BUT IT IS DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED TO THAT OF MALES, IT IS 180 DEGREES OPPOSITE OF MALES, IT IS THE CULTURE OF LIFE (MATERNAL) VS THE CULTURE OF DEATH (SOCIETY IN THE HANDS OF MALES WITH THEIR KILLER INSTINCT, UNMITIGATED OR CONTROLLED BY MOTHER LOVE.)



WILLIAM BOND BRINGS OUT IN ONE OF HIS ARTICLES THAT WHEN WOMEN ARE BRUTALIZED THEY DO NOT BECOME BRUTAL. (AND HOW WE HAVE BEEN BRUTALIZED—IT ‘S A GENDER WAR, DR. PRESCOTT, YOU DON’T SEE IT AS YOU ARE IN THE SKIN OF A MALE, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO STUDY THESE ISSUES IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT WOMEN’S PLIGHT HAS BEEN...EXAMPLE, THE EXISTENCE OF STREET PROSTITUTES IS AS STRESSFUL AS BEING ON THE FRONT LINE OF WAR...THEY GET RAPED ONCE A WEEK.) (I’D LIKE TO ADD HERE I HAVE BEEN SENSITIZED IN GREAT MEASURE BY STUDYING THE WORKS OF DR. BOYD ED GRAVES WHO SHOWS ME, IN HIS DAILY PLIGHT OF SUFFERING DUE TO THE KILLER ALPHA MALES, WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO LIVE IN THE SKIN OF A BLACK PERSON.)



Very few males consider or ever think about the issues of which I speak – it is exasperating. Academics and scholars, professors, deny the fact that we have had a gender war and that males temporarily “won” and women are living UNDER SIEGE OF THEIR CULTURE, OUR BODIES AND SOMETIMES MINDS IMPRISONED BY THOUGHTS, IDEAS AND ATTITUDES (DELUSIONS) PROPOGATED BY THEM.



Now about male and female violence. I DO NOT DENY that there are SOME VIOLENT FEMALES and they do ATROCITIES and what you say, that Mother love failure and attachment disorder is on the rise for both male and female, and we are seeing the results of this epidemic. You know of what you speak – yes I agree.



But here we need these facts:



(1)HOW MUCH VIOLENCE IS DONE BY MALES AND BY FEMALES? NEED STATISTICS. THIS READS 98% BUT I HAVE A FEELING IT IS WORSE THAN THAT ON THE MALE SIDE, BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, STATISTICS ARE BEING COLLECTED IN A PATRIARCHY, WHICH HAS REASON TO BE BIASED AGAINST FEMALES, WOULD TRUMP UP THE VIOLENCE OF FEMALES TO A HIGHER DEGREE. EXAMPLE: WOMEN KILL MEN IN SELF DEFENCE. THIS IS CONSIDERED VIOLENCE, NOT SELF DEFENSE. THEY COUNT IT AS IF SHE PERPETRATED MURDER ON A MALE, WILLY NILLY, THE WAY MALES DO UPON WOMEN.



(2)MOST CHILDREN ARE BEING RAISED BY FEMALES AND UNDER DEPLORABLE CONDITIONS AT TIMES – WOMEN WITH CHILDREN BEING THE POOREST OF THE POOR, EVEN BELOW THAT HITS WOMEN OF COLOR.

YOU MADE THE STATEMENT THAT BOTH PARENTS ARE EQUALLY ABUSIVE. WHEN BOTH PARENTS ARE PRESENT I TRUST THAT THE MALES PERPETRATE SEXUAL ABUSE TO A DEGREE WHERE THAT OF A MOTHER PERPETRATING SEXUAL ABUSE ON A CHILD IS ALMOST NON EXISTENT.

STATISTICALLY, I KNOW THAT WOMEN ARE MOSTLY LEFT WITH CHILDREN TO LIVE ON WELFARE, A BARE SUBSISTENCE SITUATION. INDEED, WHEN I HEAR ABOUT ABUSE, IT IS USUALLY WOMEN DRIVEN MAD BY POVERTY, NO HELP, NEEDY CHILDREN, NO SUPPORT, AS A PATRIARCHAL SYSTEM DOES NOT SUPPORT WOMEN, IT IS CLEVERLY DESIGNED TO SEPARATE WOMEN FROM OTHER WOMEN AND LEAVE THEM BEREFT OF FEMALE HELP, AT THE MERCY OF A PATRIARCHAL “SUPPORT SYSTEM” WHICH DOES NOT EXIST ON A WHOLESOME LEVEL.



I HAVE AN OBSESSED MAN SENDING ME VIDEOS ALMOST DAILY OF FEMALE ABUSE AGAINST CHILDREN. HAVE NOTICED THAT THESE WOMEN ARE THE POOREST OF THE POOR, OFTEN WOMEN OF COLOR. POVERTY HAS A DESULTORY EFFECT, A KIND OF CROSS ONE IS NAILED TO, BRINGING ONE TO THEIR KNEES IN DESPERATION. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR IT, BUT THAT IS THE REASON. OF COURSE, ADD TO THAT YOUR STUDIES OF LACK OF MOTHER BONDING, WHICH I GUESS THESE WOMEN ARE VICTIMS OF—NEED TO ADD HERE WHERE SPIRITUAL DAUGHTER TOVA SHOWED ME THAT BLACK WOMEN DO NOT NURSE THEIR BABIES!



(3)WHY ARE WE IN THE SITUATION, THE DEPLORABLE SITUATION, OF THE LACK OF MOTHER LOVE?

YOU ARE NOT ASKING THAT, WHY NOT? I WILL ANSWER. IT IS THE DELIBERATE PLOT OF MALES THROUGH PATRIARCHY, TO DESTROY THE MOTHER/CHILD BOND AS WELL AS THE MOTHER/BOY AND THE OLDER WOMAN/MAN BOND. IT IS PART OF “THE FIRST CONSPIRACY.”



MALES HAVE DELIBERATELY PLOTTED TO DESTROY THESE BONDS HERE MENTIONED, FOR THE SIMPLE REASON, THAT THEY WANT TO CONTROL THE OTHER MALES. IF MALES ARE UNDER THE DOMINATION OF WOMEN, THEY WILL NOT GO TO WAR!



YOUR WORK IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THAT: WHEN THEY FOUND OUT THAT THERE WOULD BE PEACE WITH MOTHER BONDING, AND VIOLENCE WITHOUT IT, THEY IMMEDIATELY ORDERED YOU TO STOP YOUR STUDIES. WHEN YOU CONTINUED THEY FIRED YOU AND BLACKBALLED YOU FROM FURTHER WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT. THEIR INTENTIONS ARE CLEAR:



DO WHATEVER NECESSARY TO DESTROY PEACE, INCLUDING THE PEACE IN THE HEART AND SOULS OF MORTALS, WHERE IT BEGINS, AND DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO CREATE AN ATMOSPHERE AND CULTURE WHERE UNHAPPINESS, MISERY, AND VIOLENCE CAN TAKE PLACE.



I rest my case for the time being and ask my friends and followers to take part – as well as anyone who agrees with your assertion, Dr. Prescott, that violence is not a male issue, but a human one. I still say it is mostly a male issue.



Thanks for opening up the discussion.

P.S. One of the friends on our list, Dr. Michael Parenti, might be a good candidate to discuss these issues, as he is one of the more sensitive academics on women’s rights.