Friday 9 October 2009

GURUS, NONDUALITY - HOW TO BECOME A GREAT DISCIPLE OR GREAT GURU

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FROM RASA:

this is a really good testimony.

i can use it.

the power is here. i have beckened many, they r called, but few r chosen,
they have so many hangups.

there is always rejoicing in heaven when a soul arrives at the gateway to
god & submits at the feet of the guru.

all the guru can do is try.

there r also those who come forward, become devotees for a time, then turn
on the guru - it gets ugly. (one man became monstrous to me but his karma
came upon him, his house burned down - i did not do this, it was his own
actions that brought karma.)

then there r those who have terrific visions, absolutely irrefutable, but
when the guru asks 4 something, they r so reluctant to give, that they
instantly quit. god help the guru if she asks 4 a donation, 90% of the time
it is instant rejection, the devotee quits, no matter how many visions he
had that she is one with god & should be followed! (one man, his ancestors
& former gurus appeared to him, told him to follow me, all of them, & when i
asked 4 a donation, he was never heard from again. a donation is a test. i
am afraid to ask 4 them any more, as so many quit, to their own detriment.)
these r tragedies to their soul - they have turned their back on god.

there r many facets to god & to the guru, there is the nurturing part, the
warrior part, the enlightenment, & the wrath. the same shakti or energy is
employed in all these, but they react as to the karma of the individual -
the individual who resists the will of god, the shakti comes upon them in a
way that is not pleasant. one cannot mess with god, god is power.

people also have skewed opinions & ideas about god, & when the guru does
not appear as they believe she should, they lose their faith. i have never
failed a devotee who properly installed me in his heart. also, i always
forgive the returning devotee even when he's done me wrong, the grace
returns to him instantly.

i have hundreds of stories of devotees who came & went, they will be
presented in books real soon.

i might add about donations: people want "something 4 nothing."

imagine marrying someone, then giving them nothing, expecting them to serve
u, but not serving them. can that work?

that is what devotees expect when they join their guru, but give nothing to
the guru in terms of service, donations, or valuable testimonies. what is
the result of this? the devotee simply gets less power - the more the
devotee gives or tries to give (some have little talent or time or money,
but it's like the disciple who gave inedible rice to krishna, lord krishna
still received it gratefully) the more light & power he gets from the guru.

believe me, i am who i am by giving, that has been one of the most salient
parts of my development. in prosperity the term is,

"my giving makes me rich."

i could tell u stories of my giving that would make u think,

"she was a fool."

but here i stand as one of the most powerful women of the ages. how did
that happen? by giving.

underneath this series of letters will be an interview with a guru, swami g,
who initiated me into the practice of "nonduality. " as soon as i began
interviewing her, i sent her $200. (no devotee, in five years, including a
couple wealthy ones has ever given me $200. although there was one pastor
from switzerland who sent me about $300. within one year.) i promoted swami
g as i learned from her, sending information on her to thousands on my
mailing lists, for two years. it gained her a few good followers, which
helped her and them. what did i gain?

it was extremely difficult to understand, the nonduality, but eventually,
after quitting swami g, i joined ramana maharshi, and soon, entered into
that supernatural state, which is one of the best things that ever happened
to me, as it ended my perpetual sufferings & abstracted me from all things
that had hurt me in the past. what a relief! had i been stingy with my
gurus, none of this would have happened.

MOTHER (GURURASA)

From: Rasa Disciple

To: Rasa Von Werder

Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:23 PM

Subject: Re: THANK U SON

Thank you so much for your reply my Rasa. You always make me feel so
special. I am honored that you took the time to meditate on this issue for
me. As for the natural substances, your will is mine. I will not use them.
Your words of wisdom make so much sense. If an individual is truly centered
she doesn't need them. If she needs them she's not truly centered and none
of her experiences hold any credibility.

Thank you also for the wonderful pictures. They are utterly incredible.
They had me mesmerized for I don't know how long. You body is a beautiful
work of art. Flawless. You are so muscular, so strong. I admire your
strength...a true protector. One has only to look into your eyes to see
that you are one with God.

As for my vision my Rasa, the vision itself was short and to the point. But
the events leading up to it are rather sordid. It all began one afternoon.
in 1998. I began to crave to develop my spirituality. I began with
Buddhism because it was the one that fit me best. Also I had lived in Japan
for so many years that the seed was instilled inside of me. Then jumping
ahead to 2005. I was on the internet looking for a church that combined
eastern and western religion. I came across the University of the Mother
God Church. I opened it and read it through thoroughly. Everything I read
made sense but my first instinct was to keep looking. Well I came back to
the University if the Mother God Church. I started to ponder about it. It
was fascinating. Some of your beliefs I had never taken into consideration
one way or another like female supremacy. But it did make sense to me since
females are much more sympathetic and statistics show they are smarter. It
made sense that to have a peaceful world that women ought to be controlling
it. But still I was doubtful. Being a Lutheran I was reluctant to be
suckered into what some people might call a "False Prophet." So I wrote to
you. I was very impressed that you answered me. You sent me a prayer to
say to you every night until I have my vision. You told me that I will have
a vision and that the vision will show me the truth. It impressed me that
you said that I "will" have a vision and not "if" I have one. Like you
knew. (I hope this isn't boring you because it really fascinates me...they
way it all evolved) So I began to say your prayer every night before I went
to bed. For weeks and weeks I did this to no avail. But suddenly one night
it happened...and I'm not sure if it was a dream or a vision because I was
half asleep. Dozing in and out. I was very groggy and relaxed though.
Suddenly there you stood on a platform, thirty feet high or more, draped in
white. I stood in the background thinking you didn't see me. Unsure what
to do. I wanted to come to you but my religious convictions wouldn't let
me. Then you looked right at me, right into my eyes and beckoned me with
your hand. You weren't smiling but your eyes told me all I needed to know.
I still reluctantly came forward. I knelt between your feet and as soon as
I did that I felt complete comfort in you like I knew I had done the right
thing. Then at that moment I came out of it and was awake. I know it had
to be more than a dream because dreams are quickly forgotten. This I
remember vividly since 2006. I would love to tell you of a near death
experience I encountered in 2004 if you'd be willing to hear it.

Thanks for the strength you have given me.

Infinite Love and Obedience, Bill

I bow down at the feet of my Rasa:

May the power of her presence

Inspire and dwell within these words

So that her vision is fulfilled.

--- On Tue, 8/25/09, Rasa Von Werder wrote:

From: Rasa Von Werder

Subject: THANK U SON

To: "Rasa Disciple"

Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 12:58 AM

BILL

I DID MEDITATE UPON SUBSTANCES AS A GATEWAY TO GOD, & THE ANSWER DEFINITELY
WAS NO.

THE INFINITE POWER SHOWED ME THIS:

PEOPLE WHO RELY ON SUBSTANCES WILL NOT FIND THE NATURAL POWER THAT BRINGS
THEM DIRECTLY TO GOD, THEY WILL ALWAYS RELY ON THE CRUTCH OR THE STEPPING
STONE.. LET GO THE CRUTCH, ALL THE SUBSTANCES R WITHIN U, UR BODY & UR
BRAIN - U CREATE ALL THIS, & U MUST LET GO OUTSIDE CHEMICALS TO CREATE IT.
U MUST BE BRAVE, STRONG IN THIS. THE STRENGTH WILL COME. THIS IS NOT AN
EASY PATH, SAINTHOOD. IT IS THE HARDEST THING OF ALL, TO BECOME A GREAT
SOUL, BUT ONE CAN DO IT. BE BRAVE.

UR KIND WORDS REGARDING ME R ALL TRUTHFUL.

THOSE WHO INSTALL ME, ALLOW ME TO DO MY WORK IN THEM, GET THESE KIND OF
VISIONS & POWERS WORKING IN THEIR LIVES.

THERE WILL BE 2 BOOKS FORTHCOMING ON THIS SUBJECT SOON - ONE IN ABOUT A
WEEK, ANOTHER IN 2-3 WEEKS.

BILL, RIGHT NOW I AM WORKING ON AN UNUSUAL PART OF THE MISSION, BUT IT IS
THE LAST, FINAL STEP, INTEGRATING SEXUALITY WITH SPIRITUALITY, AS WELL AS
ASSERTING THE DOMINANCE OF THE FEMALE OVER THE MALE IN ALL WAYS, INCLUDING
SPIRITUAL & SEXUAL.

THIS IS A MIGHTY TASK, NOT EASY TO UNDERSTAND, BUT GOD TOLD ME THIS MISSION
IS SAFE IN MY HANDS -- FEW COULD CARRY THIS. NOT EASY, ONCE MORE, BUT FUN,
WHEN U KNOW U WILL WIN A VICTORY OF MONUMENTAL PROPORTIONS.

THANK U 4 UR SUPPORT.

MOTHER (GURURASA)

From: Rasa Disciple

To: Rasa Von Werder

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:14 PM

Subject: Re: Rasa my God

No my Rasa, I am not the one in Hawaii. I have been a worshiper and
follower of yours since 2006. Because of you I have found peace with my
life. You are my savior. I live in Florida, I am 40 years old and I was
brought up as a Lutheran. My parents are from Germany like yourself. My
vision of you came one night as a dream after many unsuccessful prayers to
you. I have shared this with you a long time ago but of course I would
never expect you to remember each of your millions of followers. You were a
giant and I was about as big as your big toe. At first I was afraid to
approach you but then you beckoned to me and I came and knelt between your
feet and suddenly I felt your love and protection and I felt so safe.

I understand you Rasa. I know that you are one with God which makes you
God. Just as Jesus was and is one with God. I am a Christian. I believe
in God, the son and the Holy Ghost. The Holy Ghost is God, Jesus and Rasa
as one.

I admire you so much my Rasa. You have conquered the world and I want to be
a part of it and in your good graces. Infinite Love and Obedience, Bill

I bow down at the feet of my Rasa:

May the power of her presence

Inspire and dwell within these words

So that her vision is fulfilled.

--- On Sun, 8/23/09, Rasa Von Werder wrote:

From: Rasa Von Werder

Subject: Re: Rasa my God

To: "Rasa Disciple"

Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 10:47 PM

I NEITHER CONDONE NOR DISSAPROVE, - I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THIS

TELL ME ABOUT UR EXPERIENCES OF ME, SUCH AS VISIONS, DREAMS, INTIMATIONS,
DEEP ROOTED FEELINGS

LET ME KNOW ABOUT U SUCH AS AGE, WHERE U LIVE, SPIRITUAL BACKGROUND, HOW U
CAME TO KNOW OF ME, ETC.

OR R U THE ONE IN HAWAII?

MOTHER (GURURASA)

From: Rasa Disciple

To: Rasa Von Werder

Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 8:54 AM

Subject: Rasa my God

Rasa my God,

Do you condone the use of natural religious substances such as the Peyote
cactus and Peganum seeds to help open a spiritual portal between you and me?
These things would be consumed orally and not smoked.

Ininite Love and Obedience,

Bill

I bow down at the feet of my Rasa:

May the power of her presence

Inspire and dwell within these words

So that her vision is fulfilled.

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BLAST FROM THE PAST - CAUGHT THIS ON "INDIA DIVINE" WEBSITE -- MY INTERVIEW
WITH SWAMI G. WHAT MEMORIES. SHE WAS MY GURU FOR TWO YEARS BEFORE WE FELL
OUT - SHE'S THE CATALYST FOR MY EVENTUALL (DEC. "07) ENTERING INTO THE
ULTIMATE STATE CALLED "NONDUALITY. "

IndiaDivine Home

SATGURU SWAMI G ANSWERS DEVOTEE RASA VON WERDER - 03-05-2006, 05:38 PM

http://www.womantho uartgod.com/ yoga.php# swamiji

OM Namo Narayan

Maha Shanti OM

THANK YOU BELOVED LIGHT OF GOD IN ADVANCE

* IS IT BETTER TO HAVE A LIVING GURU THAN TO WORSHIP GOD FROM AFAR OR IN THE

OTHER DIMENSION?

G Yes - a living Guru is in touch with what is taking place Now ...

* IS IT BETTER TO HAVE A LIVING GURU THAN WORSHIP ONE THAT HAS PASSED ON? IF

SO, WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS?

G the Living Guru can give instruction and Guidance that pertain

to the Seekers individual path ... they can shed light on a place

where the Sadhaka is blind to ... Whereas it is always the misunderstood
line

that "why must i go to an outer Guru when i can hear my Own Inner guru " and
the

answer to this is that inner guru that one hears within may also be tinged
with

the voice of the ego..

a Sat Guru can distinguish the difference between your egoic mind

versus what is real and valuable promptings ... Yes some of what

is coming through May be valid ... and yet some of what is coming

through may be just tinged with enough egoic mind to make it severely skewed
and

off ....

* HAVE NOTICED THAT ON SOME GROUPS, EXAMPLE GURU RATINGS, THEY GO ON AND ON

ABOUT GURUS, BUT THEY CANNOT SERVE ONE. THEY SEEM TO BE IN

DESPERATE NEED (SOME OF THEM) AND ARE SORT OF LIKE RUNNING AROUND THE

POST, BUT CAN'T SEEM TO STOP AND RECEIVE ANYTHING. ONE LOVELY YOUNG

MAN, AS AN EXAMPLE, 'S' BEGAN SERVING YOU, AND QUIT. HE ADMITS HE

FAILED, HE SAID SO ON TWO GROUPS.

G it is not about *serving* a Guru like a slave... it is about

Surrendering to the promptings that pertain to hearing the Guru's insight
about

what is holding one back ... about diving into what is given Wholeheartedly

without reservation. .. if you can't or are not willing to trust the Guru you

are with then one of two things is taking place

1. either the Guru is not living what is being spoken of ... (in that case

leave)

2. you aren't committed enough nor wise enough nor ready for the

advanced part

of the path which is cutting through rather than building up ...

* NEXT, HE BECAME MY FRIEND AND DEFENDED ME VALIANTLY ON GR. BUT

WHEN THE'WAR' WAS OVER, AND I CALLED HIM ONE DAY TO TALK, HE TOLD ME HE
COULD

NOT BE FRIENDS, BECAUSE I AM A GURU!

G what was said about this before? is this not what i said concering this
that

the person in question hops here and there and has no stability ?

* NEXT, HE POSTS DOZENS OF POSTS EVALUATING AND SEARCHING FOR

GURUS. DO THESE PEOPLE MAKE SENSE TO YOU?

G yes - they are in maya mind and suffering

* WHY CAN'T THEY RECEIVE SOMETHING FROM YOU OR ME?

G ego is so unstable as they are not ready for anything that

challenges the supports they desperately hold on to or are searching

for... many have to believe they are better than gurus and that

nothing may be given to them as they are holding onto and projecting

an image of being strong or wise or whatever they believe secretly they are
not

(one of the conditioned driving forces) ... the pendulum swings hard from
one

side to the other ... it takes Strength to Surrender - many in the world
view

it as weakness ...

* WHY CAN'T THEY STOP THE SEARCH WHEN THE GURU IS RIGHT IN

FRONT OF THEM? WHAT IS MISSING IN THEIR UNDERSTANDING?

G Wisdom and Discernment ...

* I HAVE HAD A LARGE NUMBER OF DEVOTEES NOW SO I CAN IMAGINE YOU

HAVE HAD MANY MORE. DO YOU HAVE THEORIES ON WHY THEY FALL APART, DENY THE
GURU

AND EVEN THE SHAKTI?

G there comes a point where their projections or expectations or

fantasy's are not being met ... }there comes a point where what needs to be

Seen and looked at 100 % without covering over in order to move forward ...

many are simply not ready for that step ...

it is easier to leave and call the Guru a charlatan than it is to

look within and find out where their catching is .... easier to prop

up the ego than it is to break through it ....

* WHAT WOULD YOU SAY ARE THE MAIN REASONS THEY 'FALL APART' OR 'HIT

THE WALL' OR EVEN GO 'BALMY.' SOME, NOT MANY, EVEN BECOME TRAITORS AND
ENEMIES.

DO YOU HAVE STRONG IDEAS ON ALL THESE OCCURENCES?

G see above ...

* WHEN YOU GIVE DIKSHA, ARE YOU TRANSMITTING SHAKTI?

G it is unlocking the Shakti that is already there ....

* AND DO YOU GIVE THE SHAKTI IN STAGES?

G the more around the Guru or receiving on many levels the more

it may be increased .... when getting Energy work from a Guru there is of
course

more increase or breaking through that which is holding it back ....

* CAN YOU CONTROL THE SHAKTI, OR IS IT OUT OF YOUR CONTROL?

G one does not *Control* Shakti ... that is akin to wanting to

Control the Universe ... it is Fine when someone is not interfering

with it's inherent Wisdom ...

* DO YOU GIVE PART OF IT OR ALL OF IT AT ONCE?

G All but most may not receive the fullness of it at once ...

* AFTER YOU HAVE GIVEN THE SHAKTI TO A DEVOTEE, DOES IT GROW BY

ITSELF PROPERLY, OR DO YOU HAVE TO GUIDE THE PERSON?

G usually both ...

* IF THE PERSON TAKES OFF AND REFUSES TO HONOR AND OBEY YOU ANY

MORE, HOW DOES IT AFFECT THE SHAKTI?

G it isn't about obeying in a external way ... it is about

Surrendering into the Way or the allowing of Shakti to move

and release while giving the lessons needed....

* ONE GUY SORT OF TURNED HIS BACK ON ME AND WAS GOING TO 'FIND HIS

PERFECTION' BY HIMSELF - WHILE DENYING THE GURU WHO GAVE HIM THE

SHAKTI. WHAT IS THE FATE OF SUCH A PERSON?

G depends on may factors.... no one point blank answer....

* IS THEIR ADVANCEMENT CURTAILED IN ANY WAY, OR DOES THE SHAKTI

CONTINUE TO GROW AND MANIFEST NICELY EVEN THOUGH THE DEVOTEE DENIES THE
GURU?

G it may stop if early in motion and not fully activated ... then

again it may continue on and will give what the seeker may think they want,
all

as another illus ional sidetrack (powers - projections - realms etc) ...
Shakti

may aide the journey to Clarity or may bring Greater Delusion....

* WHEN THE GURU GIVES THE SHAKTI, HOLY SPIRIT, DOES IT CONTAIN THE

SIGNATURE OF THE GURU WITHIN IT? IMO IT DOES, AND I CALL IT

'SPIRITUAL DNA'. THIS GOT SOME ANGRY AND HYSTERICAL RETORTS FROM

PEOPLE ON GROUPS, SAYING I AM DANGEROUS AND THEY WANT TO STAY AWAY

FROM ME. THEY HAD APPARANTLY A FEAR OF ANYTHING THAT WOULD CONTAIN MY

PERSONAL

SELF.

G it is beyond a personal self ... if there is a personal self

enhancing (?) it then it is being skewed ....

* I GOT MY IDEA FROM JESUS, WHO LEFT US HIS BODY AND BLOOD IN HOLY

COMMUNION. IT SEEMS TO ME HE WAS SAYING IT IS NOT ONLY THE IMPERSONAL GOD,
BUT

IT HAS HIS MARK OR SIGNATURE WITH IT (THE SHAKTI). WHAT DO YOU SAY ABOUT
THIS?

G it was to Drink up All Aspects of what is being given ... Keep it

and see it as Holy ... Hold onto the body of it as Precious Manna as a Holy

Offering ... Whatever the Guru gives it is to be held

as Sacred and for ones edification and aiding in release from sins
IE.bondage.. .

Remember my Offerings to you.... ALL is for your benefit even this ones life
on

this plane ...

* ON THE SAME LINE, DO YOU LIVE IN ALL YOUR DEVOTEES THE WAY THAT

JESUS LIVES IN HIS? I THINK YOU DO.

G if they accept fully ... if not then partially as to their

openness....

* DO YOU BELIEVE, SWAMI, IN REACHING OUT TO ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE,

INCLUDING THOSE THAT SEEM TOTALLY LOST AND ADDICTED TO SIN, SEX AND

DELUSION?

G bondage and ignorance is one and the same across the board....

* DO YOU CASTE A WIDE NET OR A SMALLER NET, SEEKING ONLY

THOSE WHO ARE REASONABLY EVOLVED?

G those who have eyes to see Will .... those who have ears to hear

Will .... the rest fall by the wayside ... some go a short way and seem to
spout

up for a time but then they are choked by the weeds of their attachments and

aversions... . they have not weeded the garden along the way ....

* IT SEEMS TO ME THERE COULD BE A FEW LEVELS THAT WE MINISTER TO

PEOPLE ON, AS I HAVE NOTICED. SOME ARE SPIRITUALLY DEAD, AND THEY GET BORN

AGAIN. SOME ARE ADVANCED, AND THEY MOVE INTO THE HIGHER STATES, OR EVEN THE

SAHASRARA. THE

SAME SHAKTI AFFECTS BOTH TRANSITIONS. WHAT DO YOU SAY?

G each life gives an Opportunity for growth ... each Moment

gives an opportunity ... Shakti is Shakti ... it is Neutral the spin that is

seen comes from the mind ...

* ARE YOU GOING TO OPEN AN ASHRAM IN MEXICO?

G No ... if people want it then they must make it happen ...

* WHAT PART OF MEXICO ARE YOU IN?

G Ajijic / Lake Chapala south of Guadalahara

* WHAT MADE YOU MOVE THERE?

G was time ...

* IS IT PLEASANTER AND REASONABLE LIFESTYLE TO LIVE IN?

G it is fine ...

* I HAVE BEEN IN MEXICO FOR EXTENDED PERIODS, ONE TIME WAS THERE OVER A
MONTH.

AND IT IS PARADISE AND YES, YOU CAN GET SERVANTS REAL CHEAP AND HOUSING AS
WELL.

BUT THIS WAS IN THE SIXTIES.

G it is getting more expensive by the day in this area as it is

becoming a big spot for retirees ... many come with much money and that
drives

up the costs... although i have heard that a gardener

or having someone coming in to clean a couple of times a week is

reasonable ...

* WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS THERE, SWAMI?

G just be in the moment ... same as anywhere ... hahahahahaah

Although did just spend the day with another Swami who happens to be

also a Sat Guru ... it was a great day with much Laughter ...

that Sat Guru is translating texts from hindu and Sanscrit into

English ... she had a large ashram near to here but closed it down in order
to

put full attention into the translations .. maybe i have been sent in to
pick up

the slack ...

INFINITE LOVE, RASA

Love & Light

Great Peace & IS

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