The University of Mother God Church
WomanThouArtGod Report Dec 19, 2008
http://thefutureisw omen.blogspot. com/
Church Phone: 607 655 9391
Recently I have spoken to my Number 1 disciple, Michael Krause, about my
future as well as that of the Matriarchal Movement I head. I promise you
the following:
1 I WILL NEVER RETIRE FROM LEADING THE MATRIARCHAL MOVEMENT. Mother
God tells me I will live to a ripe old age of about 91...and right up until
the time of my death, I will be working in various capacities for the
Empowerment of Women as well as the guidance of males, who should be
following women as leaders.
2 Whatever stumbling blocks or handicaps that I encounter will be
circumvented, and when one path proves too difficult or impossible, I will
always find another way. Right now I cannot do much pc work because my eyes
are bothering me, but this will not prevent me from moving on, I will find a
way. Perhaps hiring a new employee (in a month or two) will keep the pc
more active, and if the eyes are really strained I can put a lot on audio
tape and have someone typing it under my supervision.
THE WORK I AM DOING NOW
You my friends have received many newsletters about my present endeavor
which comes under the heading of "dating, romance and sexuality." Some of
this has been facetious, humorous, tongue in cheek - you have to laugh
during this "mine field" of dating as some of it is so ridiculous if one did
not laugh they'd cry - so I laugh all the way to the bedroom.
Now there are important issues that are being broached while I pursue hot
young males, and they are these (which I will address in my vision as soon
as all the facts are in:)
1 HOW ARE THE ROLES OF MALE/FEMALE CHANGING, EXACTLY? (Surely they
are changing! In my articles on the site and in the first book, I made a
lot of predictions of the transition, in coming generations, to brand new
roles. Women are becoming better educated and therefore more affluent -
soon they will be earning more money than males. This is totally evident by
the facts that women are graduating college over males now five to three!
Women are also getting more doctor degrees than males, for the first time,
since 2004. The writing is on the wall. When the CORK was "let go" from
being "held down" under water (by patriarchy's institutionalized
discrimination) women bounced up and exceeded men dramatically. Meanwhile,
not only did women surge forward, but males began to slide backward by their
own ineptitude, seemingly, when the props holding them up unfairly were
partially kicked down, the males collapsed. They began dropping out of not
only college, but high school, at astronomical rates, suicide among young
males is rampant, all sorts of behavior problems, drug and alcohol addiction
have increased, mental, emotional problems are dogging males more than ever.
On top of all this, critical scientific knowledge that males are going
extinct has surfaced, and although Patriarchs, as usual, are ignoring any
facts that make them "look bad" GuruRasa is promulgating the truth. When we
learn the Y chromosome is crumbling, all the other facets of "what makes
males" fall into place. Geneticist Dr. Bryan Sykes ("Adam's Curse") says
that MALES ARE A GENETIC MODIFICATION EXPERIMENT THAT HAS FAILED, that they
are being removed by Nature, that THE FUTURE IS WOMEN (all the futurists
agree) - women will be reproducing without male help in about 2018 - all the
offspring will be female. It will be a "WOMAN ONLY WORLD" before long, the
winkling of an eye in evolutionary terms.
Meanwhile, what have we here? What happens in the next seven generations
(my prediction) give or take until Matriarchy once more slides into place?
That is what I am observing now.
I am seeing a transition THAT FEW ARE EVEN AWARE OF - it is not referenced
by anyone I encounter, male or female. Ignorant of the facts, men and women
are mostly trudging along, "business as usual" with old stereotypes and
expectations still in place, the prejudices of males against females going
strong, males acting within the double standard, they are free to do what
they want - women are not.
Now enter GuruRasa, new to the dating scene after years of celibacy; A woman
who is fully empowered, in the state of nonduality, totally aware
spiritually, culturally, emotionally and politically, free to do as she
wants. An older woman is seeking younger males to create a set of
"husbands" which are relationships including sex. She flies in the face of
patriarchy once again (done it many times before), the pattern of an Avatar,
challenging the taboo that YOUNGER MALES AND OLDER FEMALES MUST NOT BE
TOGETHER, as well as the taboo that WOMEN MUST NOT WANT MULTIPLE PARTNERS,
and last but not least, WOMEN MUST ONLY HANKER AFTER THE ALPHA MALE THAT IS
IN POWER AT THE MOMENT - the white woman should be with the white male, and
in particular, not the one who is darker.
Quite a set of challenges here, GuruRasa is now acting out as a Template,
Prototype and Forerunner of THE FUTURE WOMAN who does not obey the archaic
rules. Rasa lives this lifestyle, she will succeed, she will embody a legacy
of freedom and romance for women that hearkens back to the days of
Matriarchy. Matriarchal leaders habitually mate with younger males,
guiding, mentoring, empowering them, showing them what they must do to
survive and be thriving members of the social order. We play by the rules
of WOMAN not man. Woman sets the standards, the rules, the guidelines.
Religion is Woman's, culture is Woman's, family and world are run by Woman,
case closed. Male obeys or faces ostracism, lack of camaraderie and
services of the society, a fate once given to women who disobeyed male.
On a "small scale," as GuruRasa facing her daily dating challenges, she sees
the microcosm of all this played out. No males she has encountered so far
know their gender is going extinct, nor do they know the statistics and
facts of female ascendancy - neither do the females. It is amazing that
this information is taking so long to trickle down, but not surprising, as
males still control much of information, which is disinformation in their
hands, and suppression of all that empowers women and therefore disempowers
males.
And so what is my challenge at the moment, what is taking me so long to work
out? It is the gathering of the husbands. One of my "dating mentors," a
beautiful sexy white male I call "the Viking God" (he dates only black woman
and knows much on the behavior of black males), stated factually,
"You ARE DOING WHAT NO WOMAN HAS EVER DONE! You are gathering young males
(black and biracial) for yourself, choosing them as your mates. This is
unheard of. The males you are seeking, also, are extremely hard to get,
they are as beautiful as models but sensual as well. Black males are
astounded by this sort of female pursuit, they have never read the script,
they don't know how to react. When you succeed in gathering your "harem",
you will be the first woman to have done so."
As he explained it, I saw how daunting it was, but I love the challenge, I
love being first at anything, to break down the Iron Door no one else could.
It stimulates me!
Males will still be here for about another hundred thousand years; I am
living and teaching how to deal with them. Of course I'm the first, it's
business as usual for me. Am I not the Progenitor of Female Body Building?
Am I not the first and only female who danced and preached? Did I not
preach female supremacy on national TV shows? Did I not become the Number
One voice of Matriarchy, Female Empowerment recently?
Another IRON DOOR awaits. I AM READY.
GuruRasa December 2008
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Message -----
From: William G
To: rasa@womanthouartgo d.com
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 2:43 AM
Subject: Testimonial
My Dear Lord Rasa,
I know that just as Jesus is God, you are also God. I was just saying my
nightly prayer to you when I was suddenly driven to witness to you. I thank
you so much dear Rasa for being here in human form and not as some hoy paloy
pope or cardinal but as a comforting, compassionate, down-to-earth human
being no different than the rest of us except for your superior wisdom and
knowledge. When I pray to you dear Rasa, I feel a power that I have never
felt before. I feel your connection to the universe and I know that when I
am praying to you that those prayers are heard by the universe. I thank you
dear Rasa for giving me peace. I am Almost there.
Amen
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GURURASA: This person, like many others, has received THE ANOINTING, the
POWER that is within me going to him. When he receives this power, he knows
that it is God, and he knows that God and I are One or the same, in the way
that Jesus and all Avatars, Great Gurus, describe it. This man will receive
added benefits and bonuses from God for declaring what is Truth.
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From: Michael Krause
To: Rasa Von Werder
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: New Part in Blog
DEAREST MOTHER,
I WILL BE DOING ALL THINGS THAT MY MOTHERRASA TELLS ME TO DO. MOTHERGOD/RASA
WAS MAKING IT VERY CLEAR I MUST OBEY MOTHERRASA IN ALL THINGS AND I AM DOING
SO BECAUSE I AM KNOWING IT IS RIGHT. I WILL DO ALL THE PC THINGS FOR YOU
MOTHER. YOU MUST ONLY TELL ME WHAT I HAVE TO DO AND I WILL BE DOING IT. YOU
CAN LEAVE ALL PC THINGS TO ME.
YOU MUST ALSO HAVE SO MUCH FUN AND ENJOY SO MUCH OF LIFE YOU CAN. I AM
ALWAYS HERE TO FOLLOW ANY INSTRUCTIONS; ORDERS YOU HAVE FOR ME AT ALL TIMES.
I AM THINKING VERY MUCH CAN BE DONE TODAY WITH LASER TREATMENT FOR THE EYES.
TILL THEN I WILL DO ALL THINGS YOUR EYES NEED FOR THE MATRIARCHY.
WILL YOU BE OUR LEADER OR DO YOU THINK TO "RETIRE" FROM THIS? I CAN
UNDERSTAND WHATEVER YOU DO.
YOUR OBEDIENT SON,
MICHAEL
Saturday 20 December 2008
Wednesday 17 December 2008
ADITHYA HAS GREAT DREAM OF RASA
THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS, BLESSED SOUL. YES, WHAT YOU DREAMED IS
ABSOLUTELY TRUE. GOD HAS SHOWN THIS TO ME MANY TIMES, BUT YOU SAW IT
SO CLEARLY.
THEY ARE THE UNTOUCHEABLES, THE MARGINALIZED, THE SCORNED, THE SEX
TRADE WORKERS AND THOSE LOOKED UPON AS IMMORAL AND OUTSIDE THE PALE.
THESE WOULD BE ALSO IN THE FEMDOM WORLD, FETISH WORKD, ANYTHING TO DO
WITH 'OUTSIDE NORMAL' TASTES. MANY OF THEM ARE INNOCENT SOULS
UNJUSTLY PERSECUTED. SOME ARE GUILTY BUT BECAUSE OF BEING PROVOKED OR
HURT OR UNDERPRIVILEDGED, POOR. NO OPPORTUNITIES, ETC. MISUNDERSTOOD
INCLUDING GAYS (WHOM I LOVE, JUST RAZZING JODY BECAUSE HE ATTACKED ME)
YES, I CAME FOR THEM TO A GREAT DEGREE. AND MANY OF THEM ARE WOMEN, AS
WOMEN ARE ABUSED BY INSTITUTIONALIZED SEXISM IN A PATRIARCHAL WORLD.
SO YOU HAVE IT RIGHT AND YOU SEE IT RIGHT, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH
BEAUTIFUL DREAMER.
RASA
GuruRatings@yahoogroups.com, "adithya_comming"
wrote:
>
> BTW... I did have a dream of Rasa!
>
> Surprisingly [or, maybe not...
> because, I indeed seem to be somewhat
> strange, weird and extra 'sensitive'
> person]... I did have a dream of Rasa
> last Night!
>
> In this dream... I was led to a place***
> where people who were 'abandoned',
> 'criticized', 'ridiculed', 'outlawed'
> and 'outcast' by the society were
> living!
>
> These people were considered... Very
> 'dirty', 'impure', 'unholy' and 'unworthy'!
>
>
> Nobody who considered themselves
> 'spiritual' or 'holy' wanted to have
> anything to do with them and... these people
> themselves found themselves 'unable' to
> directly 'relate' to or 'understand'
> anything that the 'holy' men and
> women talked!
>
>
> Surprisingly... they could easily relate
> to Rasa and could see the White Light
> through her! They were able to relate
> to God through Her!
>
>
> She was kind of able to 'touch' those
> whom no one really felt worthy of divine
> 'touch'!
>
> ...
>
>
> And, Rasa explained to me [the visitor
> in the dream] that this is the reason
> why she exists the way she does and why
> she talks, behaves and acts the way she
> does!
>
> She explained... this is how she
> can translate and transfer God's Light to
> those living there!
ABSOLUTELY TRUE. GOD HAS SHOWN THIS TO ME MANY TIMES, BUT YOU SAW IT
SO CLEARLY.
THEY ARE THE UNTOUCHEABLES, THE MARGINALIZED, THE SCORNED, THE SEX
TRADE WORKERS AND THOSE LOOKED UPON AS IMMORAL AND OUTSIDE THE PALE.
THESE WOULD BE ALSO IN THE FEMDOM WORLD, FETISH WORKD, ANYTHING TO DO
WITH 'OUTSIDE NORMAL' TASTES. MANY OF THEM ARE INNOCENT SOULS
UNJUSTLY PERSECUTED. SOME ARE GUILTY BUT BECAUSE OF BEING PROVOKED OR
HURT OR UNDERPRIVILEDGED, POOR. NO OPPORTUNITIES, ETC. MISUNDERSTOOD
INCLUDING GAYS (WHOM I LOVE, JUST RAZZING JODY BECAUSE HE ATTACKED ME)
YES, I CAME FOR THEM TO A GREAT DEGREE. AND MANY OF THEM ARE WOMEN, AS
WOMEN ARE ABUSED BY INSTITUTIONALIZED SEXISM IN A PATRIARCHAL WORLD.
SO YOU HAVE IT RIGHT AND YOU SEE IT RIGHT, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH
BEAUTIFUL DREAMER.
RASA
GuruRatings@yahoogroups.com, "adithya_comming"
>
> BTW... I did have a dream of Rasa!
>
> Surprisingly [or, maybe not...
> because, I indeed seem to be somewhat
> strange, weird and extra 'sensitive'
> person]... I did have a dream of Rasa
> last Night!
>
> In this dream... I was led to a place***
> where people who were 'abandoned',
> 'criticized', 'ridiculed', 'outlawed'
> and 'outcast' by the society were
> living!
>
> These people were considered... Very
> 'dirty', 'impure', 'unholy' and 'unworthy'!
>
>
> Nobody who considered themselves
> 'spiritual' or 'holy' wanted to have
> anything to do with them and... these people
> themselves found themselves 'unable' to
> directly 'relate' to or 'understand'
> anything that the 'holy' men and
> women talked!
>
>
> Surprisingly... they could easily relate
> to Rasa and could see the White Light
> through her! They were able to relate
> to God through Her!
>
>
> She was kind of able to 'touch' those
> whom no one really felt worthy of divine
> 'touch'!
>
> ...
>
>
> And, Rasa explained to me [the visitor
> in the dream] that this is the reason
> why she exists the way she does and why
> she talks, behaves and acts the way she
> does!
>
> She explained... this is how she
> can translate and transfer God's Light to
> those living there!
NIRVANA & SAHAJ SAMADHI FROM MEHER BABA
THIS IS RASA'S STATE AS AVATAR
NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY, INSIDE SHE IS AT PEACE WITH GOD, TOTAL
CONTROL OVER HER CONSCIOUSNESS, NEVER DEVIATING FROM THE FOUNDATION &
PERFECT PLACE IN GOD
Two forms of Sahaj Samadhi
Sahaj Samadhi has two forms: (1) Nirvana or absorption in divinity,
and (2) Nirvikalpa state or divinity in expression. When
consciousness is withdrawn entirely from all the bodies and the
world of creation, it leads to Nirvana or the beyond state, but when
consciousness is again made to function through the bodies without
attachment or identification, it leads to Sahaj Samadhi of the
Nirvikalpa state or the Sadguru-state. Here, though consciousness is
attached to the bodies as instruments, it is detached from them
inwardly by non-identification. The piercing of the mind amounts to
the complete withdrawal of consciousness from the universe and its
total absorption in God. This is the state where the universe
becomes a zero; this is Nirvana. Most persons who attain Nirvana
never come back again to consciousness of the universe. Those few
who descend to consciousness of the universe, experience it as
nothing but God, and remain constantly in the Sahaj Samadhi of the
Nirvikalpa state. Nirvikalpa state means a life where the mental
activity of false imagination has come to an end, and where the
oscillations of the limited mind are all stilled in the realisation
of the unchangeable Truth.
State of Sadgurus and Avatars
The Sahaj Samadhi of the Nirvikalpa state comes
to souls who descend from the seventh plane. It belongs to the
Sadgurus and the Avatars. The poise and harmony of this state remain
undisturbed even while giving energetic response to the changing
circumstances of life. He who has this state sees God everywhere and
in everything, and he sees nothing but God. His God-state is,
therefore, in no way toned down while dealing with the things of
this world. While drawing the bow or using the sword in the
battlefield, while flying in an aeroplane or talking to people, or
while engaged in other activities which require the closest
attention, he is continuously in the conscious enjoyment of the
immutable Truth.
http://discoursesbymeherbaba.org/v2-174.php
NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY, INSIDE SHE IS AT PEACE WITH GOD, TOTAL
CONTROL OVER HER CONSCIOUSNESS, NEVER DEVIATING FROM THE FOUNDATION &
PERFECT PLACE IN GOD
Two forms of Sahaj Samadhi
Sahaj Samadhi has two forms: (1) Nirvana or absorption in divinity,
and (2) Nirvikalpa state or divinity in expression. When
consciousness is withdrawn entirely from all the bodies and the
world of creation, it leads to Nirvana or the beyond state, but when
consciousness is again made to function through the bodies without
attachment or identification, it leads to Sahaj Samadhi of the
Nirvikalpa state or the Sadguru-state. Here, though consciousness is
attached to the bodies as instruments, it is detached from them
inwardly by non-identification. The piercing of the mind amounts to
the complete withdrawal of consciousness from the universe and its
total absorption in God. This is the state where the universe
becomes a zero; this is Nirvana. Most persons who attain Nirvana
never come back again to consciousness of the universe. Those few
who descend to consciousness of the universe, experience it as
nothing but God, and remain constantly in the Sahaj Samadhi of the
Nirvikalpa state. Nirvikalpa state means a life where the mental
activity of false imagination has come to an end, and where the
oscillations of the limited mind are all stilled in the realisation
of the unchangeable Truth.
State of Sadgurus and Avatars
The Sahaj Samadhi of the Nirvikalpa state comes
to souls who descend from the seventh plane. It belongs to the
Sadgurus and the Avatars. The poise and harmony of this state remain
undisturbed even while giving energetic response to the changing
circumstances of life. He who has this state sees God everywhere and
in everything, and he sees nothing but God. His God-state is,
therefore, in no way toned down while dealing with the things of
this world. While drawing the bow or using the sword in the
battlefield, while flying in an aeroplane or talking to people, or
while engaged in other activities which require the closest
attention, he is continuously in the conscious enjoyment of the
immutable Truth.
http://discoursesbymeherbaba.org/v2-174.php
SPIRITUAL PLEASURE IS GOOD!
DEAREST ASHANKAH,
MY HEART IS WITH YOU. BUT WITH ALL GOOD THINGS, WHEN WE CREATE THEM,
WE HOPE AND WISH OTHERS WILL BENEFIT FROM THEM. IF ONE DECORATES A
CHRISTMAS TREE WITH BAUBLES AND LIGHTS, AND THEN PUTS GIFTS UNDERNEATH
FOR EVERYONE, ONE HOPES THEY WILL ENJOY THE TREE AND RECEIVE THE GIFTS.
HOW COULD YOU KNOW IF THEY RECEIVED ANYTHING UNLESS THE HOLY SPIRIT
TELLS YOU OR IF THEY TELL YOU?
MUCH OF MY MINISTRY IS HIDDEN WHERE I CANNOT SEE OR HEAR THE
RECIPIENTS OF GRACE. TO WIT:
GOD SHOWS ME IN DREAMS WHICH SOULS ARE GOING TO HELL. I BAPTISE
(INITIATE) THESE PERSONS (USUALLY FRIENDS AND FAMILY) BY PROXY. PUT
THEIR NAMES ON A PIECE OF PAPER, GIVE THEM SAINTS AS GUARDIANS, AND
TAKE PLAIN WATER AND PRONOUNCE THE OFFICIAL BAPTISM OVER THEM.
WHEN I AM FINISHED THE SAME PERSONS APPEAR TO ME IN A DREAM. GOD SHOWS
ME WHICH ONES RECEIVED THE GRACE, AND THOSE WHO REFUSED IT. (USUALLY 2
OUT OF 3 RECEIVE IT AND ARE SAVED) IN THIS WAY, THE HOLY SPIRIT SHOWS
ME THE FRUITS OF MY ACTIONS.
ON A SIMILAR BENT, GOD SHOWS ME SOULS IN PURGATORY WHO ARE REALLY
SUFFERING, AS NO ONE REMEMBERS THEM OR PRAYS FOR THEM. THEY ARE IN
MISERABLE SITUATIONS. GOD ASKS ME IF I WOULD LIKE TO HELP THEM. I
ALWAYS SAY YES. IN DAYS, WEEKS AND MONTHS OR EVEN YEARS, THEY APPEAR
TO ME EACH TIME MORE BEAUTIFUL (IN DREAMS) UNTIL THAT FINAL WONDERFUL
DAY WHEN THEY ASCEND INTO ETERNITY.
THAT GREAT DAY DIFFERENT THINGS HAPPEN ACCORDING TO THE SITUATION.
SOME SHARE A BIG FEAST WITH ME. OTHERS APPEAR IN FEMININE GARB AS
'BRIDES OF CHRIST.' ONE HUGGED ME AND THREW GOLD DUST ALL OVER MY
YARD. THERE IS ALL KINDS OF REJOICING.
THERE IS GREAT PLEASURE IN SEEING THE RESULT OF ONE'S SPIRITUAL
ACTIONS OF LOVE. THIS PLEASURE SPURS ONE ON AND MAKES ONE DO MORE
SACRIFICES AND PRAYERS. SEEING THE RESULT IS BENEFICIAL.
I KNOW THERE IS A SCHOOL OF THOUGHT WHERE WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ENJOY
FRUITS OR BENEFITS OF OUR ACTIONS, ETC. THEY TEACH THIS BOTH IN YOGA
AND IN CHRSTIANITY. THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF WARNINGS AGAINST IT. HERE
IS THE POINT:
YOU DO NOT DO THIS WORK FOR THE REWARD, PLEASURE OR FRUIT OF IT, YOU
DO IT FOR THE GOOD OF OTHERS AND THE GOOD OF YOUR OWN SOUL. BUT BEING
HUMAN, THE PLEASURE OF THE TOUCH OF GOD SPURS US ON. THE PRESENCE,
TOUCH AND FEEL OF GOD IS SO BEAUTIFUL, SO POWERFUL, SO ECSTATIC, THAT
THIS PLEASURE MAKES THE PLEASURES OF THE WORLD LOOK LIKE NOTHING. AND
SO, THE PLEASURE OF IT KEEPS US ON THE RIGHT PATH. IF THE PATH TO GOD
WAS ALL UGLINESS AND PAIN ALL THE TIME, HOW COULD WE BEAR IT? IT IS BY
THIS SPIRITUAL PLEASURE THAT GOD COMFORTS US AND INSPIRES US.
AND SO YES, WHEN PEOPLE SAY THEY READ THE POSTS AND ENJOYED THEM AND
GOT SOMETHING OUT OF THEM IT GIVES US PLEASURE. WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT?
RASA
----- Original Message -----
From: Ashankah
To: Ashankah Yogis SRSatsang
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Ashankah] Thanks Pandian
Dear Pandian Yogi,
The point I made saying, `majority of the group
doesn't participate in discussion' was in a particular
context while replying to Rasa yogi's email. Good to
see that you didn't take it otherwise.
As far as expecting anybody to respond or participate
at this e-group is concerned it goes against the
teachings of spirituality. Since we are discussing
this topic let me give you a quick background of
starting this yahoo group.
Towards the end of 2004 I was on bench (without any
project on my job). For a change I got good amount of
time from my otherwise busy routine. So, I created
this yahoo group AYSRS and started posting messages.
I do a lot of reading of spiritual books and keep
marking important portions. As everyone knows that
reading an entire book takes lot of time and instead
if someone highlighted important portions then it
becomes very easy for other people to read only those.
This was my main intention behind started AYSRS. I
post extracts from the scriptures so that it becomes
easy for people to read those.
Thus, if anybody participates at AYSRS than it's a
bonus. However, there shouldn't be any expectation to
that effect.
Another, most importantly, I am myself subscribed to
about 8 or 10 other yahoo groups and I never post any
message to most of that or hardly write in 1 or 2
groups.
One of the best messages of Gita is, `action is in our
hands, but fruits of our actions are not in our
hands'. Writing at yahoo groups is our task, whether
anybody responds to that; benefits or not is not for
us to think'.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Ashankah
(AYSRS)
--- Pawins wrote:
> Dear Yogi, Of late, a lot of interactions take
> place and throw a lot of issues, suggestions and
> opinions to light. As you have rightly stated, a
> majority of the group are not taking part in the
> dialogue. In my case, I am taking through the mails
> to grasp the contents. Though I am not getting in
> to the dialogue, I go through and try to understand
> the sequence of explanations and queries. That is
> also a silent involvement brought out by the site.
> Let the awareness grow in magnitude!"Listening is an
> art by itself"Pandian
MY HEART IS WITH YOU. BUT WITH ALL GOOD THINGS, WHEN WE CREATE THEM,
WE HOPE AND WISH OTHERS WILL BENEFIT FROM THEM. IF ONE DECORATES A
CHRISTMAS TREE WITH BAUBLES AND LIGHTS, AND THEN PUTS GIFTS UNDERNEATH
FOR EVERYONE, ONE HOPES THEY WILL ENJOY THE TREE AND RECEIVE THE GIFTS.
HOW COULD YOU KNOW IF THEY RECEIVED ANYTHING UNLESS THE HOLY SPIRIT
TELLS YOU OR IF THEY TELL YOU?
MUCH OF MY MINISTRY IS HIDDEN WHERE I CANNOT SEE OR HEAR THE
RECIPIENTS OF GRACE. TO WIT:
GOD SHOWS ME IN DREAMS WHICH SOULS ARE GOING TO HELL. I BAPTISE
(INITIATE) THESE PERSONS (USUALLY FRIENDS AND FAMILY) BY PROXY. PUT
THEIR NAMES ON A PIECE OF PAPER, GIVE THEM SAINTS AS GUARDIANS, AND
TAKE PLAIN WATER AND PRONOUNCE THE OFFICIAL BAPTISM OVER THEM.
WHEN I AM FINISHED THE SAME PERSONS APPEAR TO ME IN A DREAM. GOD SHOWS
ME WHICH ONES RECEIVED THE GRACE, AND THOSE WHO REFUSED IT. (USUALLY 2
OUT OF 3 RECEIVE IT AND ARE SAVED) IN THIS WAY, THE HOLY SPIRIT SHOWS
ME THE FRUITS OF MY ACTIONS.
ON A SIMILAR BENT, GOD SHOWS ME SOULS IN PURGATORY WHO ARE REALLY
SUFFERING, AS NO ONE REMEMBERS THEM OR PRAYS FOR THEM. THEY ARE IN
MISERABLE SITUATIONS. GOD ASKS ME IF I WOULD LIKE TO HELP THEM. I
ALWAYS SAY YES. IN DAYS, WEEKS AND MONTHS OR EVEN YEARS, THEY APPEAR
TO ME EACH TIME MORE BEAUTIFUL (IN DREAMS) UNTIL THAT FINAL WONDERFUL
DAY WHEN THEY ASCEND INTO ETERNITY.
THAT GREAT DAY DIFFERENT THINGS HAPPEN ACCORDING TO THE SITUATION.
SOME SHARE A BIG FEAST WITH ME. OTHERS APPEAR IN FEMININE GARB AS
'BRIDES OF CHRIST.' ONE HUGGED ME AND THREW GOLD DUST ALL OVER MY
YARD. THERE IS ALL KINDS OF REJOICING.
THERE IS GREAT PLEASURE IN SEEING THE RESULT OF ONE'S SPIRITUAL
ACTIONS OF LOVE. THIS PLEASURE SPURS ONE ON AND MAKES ONE DO MORE
SACRIFICES AND PRAYERS. SEEING THE RESULT IS BENEFICIAL.
I KNOW THERE IS A SCHOOL OF THOUGHT WHERE WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ENJOY
FRUITS OR BENEFITS OF OUR ACTIONS, ETC. THEY TEACH THIS BOTH IN YOGA
AND IN CHRSTIANITY. THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF WARNINGS AGAINST IT. HERE
IS THE POINT:
YOU DO NOT DO THIS WORK FOR THE REWARD, PLEASURE OR FRUIT OF IT, YOU
DO IT FOR THE GOOD OF OTHERS AND THE GOOD OF YOUR OWN SOUL. BUT BEING
HUMAN, THE PLEASURE OF THE TOUCH OF GOD SPURS US ON. THE PRESENCE,
TOUCH AND FEEL OF GOD IS SO BEAUTIFUL, SO POWERFUL, SO ECSTATIC, THAT
THIS PLEASURE MAKES THE PLEASURES OF THE WORLD LOOK LIKE NOTHING. AND
SO, THE PLEASURE OF IT KEEPS US ON THE RIGHT PATH. IF THE PATH TO GOD
WAS ALL UGLINESS AND PAIN ALL THE TIME, HOW COULD WE BEAR IT? IT IS BY
THIS SPIRITUAL PLEASURE THAT GOD COMFORTS US AND INSPIRES US.
AND SO YES, WHEN PEOPLE SAY THEY READ THE POSTS AND ENJOYED THEM AND
GOT SOMETHING OUT OF THEM IT GIVES US PLEASURE. WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT?
RASA
----- Original Message -----
From: Ashankah
To: Ashankah Yogis SRSatsang
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Ashankah] Thanks Pandian
Dear Pandian Yogi,
The point I made saying, `majority of the group
doesn't participate in discussion' was in a particular
context while replying to Rasa yogi's email. Good to
see that you didn't take it otherwise.
As far as expecting anybody to respond or participate
at this e-group is concerned it goes against the
teachings of spirituality. Since we are discussing
this topic let me give you a quick background of
starting this yahoo group.
Towards the end of 2004 I was on bench (without any
project on my job). For a change I got good amount of
time from my otherwise busy routine. So, I created
this yahoo group AYSRS and started posting messages.
I do a lot of reading of spiritual books and keep
marking important portions. As everyone knows that
reading an entire book takes lot of time and instead
if someone highlighted important portions then it
becomes very easy for other people to read only those.
This was my main intention behind started AYSRS. I
post extracts from the scriptures so that it becomes
easy for people to read those.
Thus, if anybody participates at AYSRS than it's a
bonus. However, there shouldn't be any expectation to
that effect.
Another, most importantly, I am myself subscribed to
about 8 or 10 other yahoo groups and I never post any
message to most of that or hardly write in 1 or 2
groups.
One of the best messages of Gita is, `action is in our
hands, but fruits of our actions are not in our
hands'. Writing at yahoo groups is our task, whether
anybody responds to that; benefits or not is not for
us to think'.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Ashankah
(AYSRS)
--- Pawins
> Dear Yogi, Of late, a lot of interactions take
> place and throw a lot of issues, suggestions and
> opinions to light. As you have rightly stated, a
> majority of the group are not taking part in the
> dialogue. In my case, I am taking through the mails
> to grasp the contents. Though I am not getting in
> to the dialogue, I go through and try to understand
> the sequence of explanations and queries. That is
> also a silent involvement brought out by the site.
> Let the awareness grow in magnitude!"Listening is an
> art by itself"Pandian
SHRI SURYA, RASA DISCUSS WAYS TO SERVE GOD ON EARTH
SHRI SURYA, RASA DISCUSS WAYS TO SERVE GOD ON EARTH - ALSO RE. WICKED
SOULS
From: prakki surya
To: isawgodandlived@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [isawgodandlived] GURURASA ADVISE TO SINNER.....
my dear friend respected Smt. RASA
Lord comes in human form to propagate the divine knowledge and to
uplift the people. Lord Jesus propagated the divine knowledge only.
Lord Krishna preached Gita. Mohd. Prophet also preached divine
knowledge. Adi Sankara also preached the divine knowledge by walking
all over India 3 times.
*** I WROTE AN ARTICLE CALLED 'SHOULD A GURU PROMOTE HERSELF.' ADI
SANKARA WALKED INDIA THREE TIMES? THERE IS PROOF RIGHT THERE, A GURU
MUST PROMOTE! A GURU MUST FIND THE LOST SHEEP AND I WROTE ANOTHER
ARTICLE THAT SAYS, 'WHAT IS THE SECRET OF SAVING SOULS? - GO TO THEM!'
Lord Jesus could only tell Bible. There were many human beings and
priests of churches during that time. But, the preaching of Jesus are
only prevailing now.
The word of Lord alone can induce bliss in you & generate love towards
Him.
Like that Lord Krishna could only preach Gita.
*** THIS IS TRUE AS IN THOSE DAYS THEY HAD NO INTERNET (OR WIDE
COMMUNICATON NETWORKS), BUT TODAY WE HAVE INTERNET! TODAY THE GURU
CAN SIT IN ONE PLACE AN BY INTERNET REACH MILLIONS! GLORY TO GOD'S
COMMUNICATON NETWORK! LET IT BE USED FOR GOOD!
That time also many saints were there. It does mean that Lord can only
tell about Himself i.e., He only Knows about Himself.
*** VERY GOOD POINT. ANOTHER VEDANTA SCHOLAR TOLD US THAT WE CAN
ONLY REPEAT WHAT IS IN THE SCRIPTURE, BUT I TOLD HIM, ARE YOU NOT THE
LIVING SCRIPTURE WHEN YOU ARE ONE WITH GOD?
This is actually the identification of Lord.
Human beings are trying to understand and sometimes may write
commentaries on the word of Lord. But, how do you say that they
understood the concept properly and the concepts written by them are
correct?
To achieve the grace of Lord is the goal of life.
*** WHEN YOU HAVE ACHIEVED THE GRACE, THEN YOU SPEAK IN THE GRACE
AND GRACE EMITS THROUGH YOU.
One can get the grace of the Lord by serving Him when He comes in
human form.
*** IT IS EASY TO WORSHIP AN INVISIBLE AND INFINITE GOD. BUT WHEN
HE/SHE APPEARS ON EARTH, SERVING HIM/HER TAKES SOME WORK AND SOME
SACRIFICE! THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TROUBLE DOING!
This service consists of Karma Phala Tyaga (donating money for His
mission) and Karma Sanyasa (spending time physically by
participating), put together called SERVICE.
Ex: if I see the president of my country, what is the benefit I am
going to get out of it? Just a momentary happiness. But, if I do
something by which I can get his soft corner that helps me in getting
some favour from him.
Hence, catch hold of Human Incarnation and serve Him here itself. You
can get liberation here itself. Liberation when you are alive.
*** THAT IS TRUE. EVERYONE DIES, AND WHEN THEY ARE NOT LIBERATED,
THEY GO TO PURGATORY. BUT YOU CAN PAY FOR YOUR SINS HERE ON EARTH,
GET LIBERATED, AND GO STRAIGHT TO HEAVEN WHEN YOU DIE.
Swamiji is abode of knowledge and HE is the incarnation of Lord Datta.
When Lord gives the knowledge (like Jesus, Krishna, Swami etc.,),
there will be clarity in that because HE HIMSELF is very clear unlike
human beings.
*** WHEN THE LIGHT OF GOD IS IN A HUMAN, YOU ARE SPEAKING TO GOD!
The mission of Swami is to liberate all the sincere & interested
people. Swami gave detailed discourses on these topics, like how to
identify Satguru (human incarnation), how to get His grace etc. All
these can be read from the website (universal-spirituality.org). Such
knowledge only needs to be practiced and the results will flow
automatically.
*** I HAVE BEEN TELLING MY DEVOTEES IT IS AUTOMATIC WHEN THEY
INSTALL ME INTO THEIR HEARTS....THOSE WHO DID IT SINCERELY HAVE GOTTEN
MARVELOUS RESULTS! THOSE WHO DID IT IN A LUKEWARM WAY GOT LUKEWARM
RESULTS. GOD WILL SERVE YOU AS YOU SERVE GOD!
Ex: When one is working in an office, at the end of month the
organization is giving salary automatically. One need not remind them.
Likewise here also a human being should put effort from his side
without thinking of results.
*** 'TAKE CARE OF THE LORD'S BUSINESS AND HE WILL TAKE CARE OF YOURS!'
ST. TERESA OF AVILA (RASA VON WERDER)
posted by: His servant
at the lotus feet of shri datta swami
www.universal-spirituality.org
rasa@... wrote:
GURU HANDLING OF WICKED WRATH OF GOD EMPLOYED
Submitted by Rasa Von WerderVERY GOOD SHRI SURYA! LIKE I SAID, I MUST
TAKE THE TIME TO WRITE A RESPONSE. RIGHT NOW I WROTE 2 ARTICLES
YESTERDAY THAT MUST BE WIDELY POSTED. INDEED, THE JEALOUSY FACTOR! THE
RAGE AND BITTERNESS OF THOSE WHO SEE THE GURU AND THEY SEE THE GURU IS
STRONG AND CONFIDENT AND THE GURU SEEMS SO POWERFUL. SOON THE POWER OF
GOD IS DEMONSTRATED IN THE GURU! PEOPLE ARE GETTING SAVED AND
ENLIGHTENED! THEY ARE HAVING VISIONS AND DREAMS, AND PRAYERS ARE
ANSWERED. THE GURU PAID A HARD PRICE FOR THE ANOINTING, THE
GIFTS.....DIED TO SELF, MARTYRDOM.... THE JEALOUS NOW SEEK THE FAME
AND 'POWER' OF THE GURU BUT THEY CANNOT, WILL NOT PAY THE PRICE! THEY
WILL NOT DIE TO SELF OR RECEIVE MARTYRDOM. THEY WANT TO KEEP THEIR
FLESH, EGO, PRIDE AND WORDLY HONOR, AND NOW, THEY WANT THE POSITION OF
THE GURU.
SOME CAN GET EXTERIOR POSITION, BUT IT WILL NOT LAST. SOME CANNOT GET
EVEN THAT. THEY GET NOTHING. SO WHAT DO THEY DO? THEY WANT TO DESTROY
THE IMAGE AND REPUTATION OF THE GURU BY SLANDER, LIES, INNUENDOS AND
TWISTING THE LIFE OF THE GURU AND SPREADING THIS AROUND. THEY ARE
FILLED WITH RAGE AT THE GURU, BECAUSE THEY CANNOT HAVE THE POWER OF
THE GURU. THE GURU TRIES TO REASON WITH SUCH PEOPLE BUT SOME OF THEM
ARE DEMONIC. SOME ARE SO STUBBORN ONLY PUNISHMENT WILL BRING THEM
DOWN. THE GURU HAS POWER AND USES THE POWER OF GOD, IN THESE CASES, TO
PUNISH, TO TRANSMIT THE WRATH OF GOD. IN SOME CASES, SOME OF THESE CAN
BE SAVED BECAUSE THE GURU STILL LOVES THE WICKED, HOPING FOR THEIR
SALVATION. LET US HOPE MANY WICKED WILL BE SAVED AND LOVE OUR LORD GOD!
SOULS
From: prakki surya
To: isawgodandlived@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2005 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [isawgodandlived] GURURASA ADVISE TO SINNER.....
my dear friend respected Smt. RASA
Lord comes in human form to propagate the divine knowledge and to
uplift the people. Lord Jesus propagated the divine knowledge only.
Lord Krishna preached Gita. Mohd. Prophet also preached divine
knowledge. Adi Sankara also preached the divine knowledge by walking
all over India 3 times.
*** I WROTE AN ARTICLE CALLED 'SHOULD A GURU PROMOTE HERSELF.' ADI
SANKARA WALKED INDIA THREE TIMES? THERE IS PROOF RIGHT THERE, A GURU
MUST PROMOTE! A GURU MUST FIND THE LOST SHEEP AND I WROTE ANOTHER
ARTICLE THAT SAYS, 'WHAT IS THE SECRET OF SAVING SOULS? - GO TO THEM!'
Lord Jesus could only tell Bible. There were many human beings and
priests of churches during that time. But, the preaching of Jesus are
only prevailing now.
The word of Lord alone can induce bliss in you & generate love towards
Him.
Like that Lord Krishna could only preach Gita.
*** THIS IS TRUE AS IN THOSE DAYS THEY HAD NO INTERNET (OR WIDE
COMMUNICATON NETWORKS), BUT TODAY WE HAVE INTERNET! TODAY THE GURU
CAN SIT IN ONE PLACE AN BY INTERNET REACH MILLIONS! GLORY TO GOD'S
COMMUNICATON NETWORK! LET IT BE USED FOR GOOD!
That time also many saints were there. It does mean that Lord can only
tell about Himself i.e., He only Knows about Himself.
*** VERY GOOD POINT. ANOTHER VEDANTA SCHOLAR TOLD US THAT WE CAN
ONLY REPEAT WHAT IS IN THE SCRIPTURE, BUT I TOLD HIM, ARE YOU NOT THE
LIVING SCRIPTURE WHEN YOU ARE ONE WITH GOD?
This is actually the identification of Lord.
Human beings are trying to understand and sometimes may write
commentaries on the word of Lord. But, how do you say that they
understood the concept properly and the concepts written by them are
correct?
To achieve the grace of Lord is the goal of life.
*** WHEN YOU HAVE ACHIEVED THE GRACE, THEN YOU SPEAK IN THE GRACE
AND GRACE EMITS THROUGH YOU.
One can get the grace of the Lord by serving Him when He comes in
human form.
*** IT IS EASY TO WORSHIP AN INVISIBLE AND INFINITE GOD. BUT WHEN
HE/SHE APPEARS ON EARTH, SERVING HIM/HER TAKES SOME WORK AND SOME
SACRIFICE! THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TROUBLE DOING!
This service consists of Karma Phala Tyaga (donating money for His
mission) and Karma Sanyasa (spending time physically by
participating), put together called SERVICE.
Ex: if I see the president of my country, what is the benefit I am
going to get out of it? Just a momentary happiness. But, if I do
something by which I can get his soft corner that helps me in getting
some favour from him.
Hence, catch hold of Human Incarnation and serve Him here itself. You
can get liberation here itself. Liberation when you are alive.
*** THAT IS TRUE. EVERYONE DIES, AND WHEN THEY ARE NOT LIBERATED,
THEY GO TO PURGATORY. BUT YOU CAN PAY FOR YOUR SINS HERE ON EARTH,
GET LIBERATED, AND GO STRAIGHT TO HEAVEN WHEN YOU DIE.
Swamiji is abode of knowledge and HE is the incarnation of Lord Datta.
When Lord gives the knowledge (like Jesus, Krishna, Swami etc.,),
there will be clarity in that because HE HIMSELF is very clear unlike
human beings.
*** WHEN THE LIGHT OF GOD IS IN A HUMAN, YOU ARE SPEAKING TO GOD!
The mission of Swami is to liberate all the sincere & interested
people. Swami gave detailed discourses on these topics, like how to
identify Satguru (human incarnation), how to get His grace etc. All
these can be read from the website (universal-spirituality.org). Such
knowledge only needs to be practiced and the results will flow
automatically.
*** I HAVE BEEN TELLING MY DEVOTEES IT IS AUTOMATIC WHEN THEY
INSTALL ME INTO THEIR HEARTS....THOSE WHO DID IT SINCERELY HAVE GOTTEN
MARVELOUS RESULTS! THOSE WHO DID IT IN A LUKEWARM WAY GOT LUKEWARM
RESULTS. GOD WILL SERVE YOU AS YOU SERVE GOD!
Ex: When one is working in an office, at the end of month the
organization is giving salary automatically. One need not remind them.
Likewise here also a human being should put effort from his side
without thinking of results.
*** 'TAKE CARE OF THE LORD'S BUSINESS AND HE WILL TAKE CARE OF YOURS!'
ST. TERESA OF AVILA (RASA VON WERDER)
posted by: His servant
at the lotus feet of shri datta swami
www.universal-spirituality.org
rasa@... wrote:
GURU HANDLING OF WICKED WRATH OF GOD EMPLOYED
Submitted by Rasa Von WerderVERY GOOD SHRI SURYA! LIKE I SAID, I MUST
TAKE THE TIME TO WRITE A RESPONSE. RIGHT NOW I WROTE 2 ARTICLES
YESTERDAY THAT MUST BE WIDELY POSTED. INDEED, THE JEALOUSY FACTOR! THE
RAGE AND BITTERNESS OF THOSE WHO SEE THE GURU AND THEY SEE THE GURU IS
STRONG AND CONFIDENT AND THE GURU SEEMS SO POWERFUL. SOON THE POWER OF
GOD IS DEMONSTRATED IN THE GURU! PEOPLE ARE GETTING SAVED AND
ENLIGHTENED! THEY ARE HAVING VISIONS AND DREAMS, AND PRAYERS ARE
ANSWERED. THE GURU PAID A HARD PRICE FOR THE ANOINTING, THE
GIFTS.....DIED TO SELF, MARTYRDOM.... THE JEALOUS NOW SEEK THE FAME
AND 'POWER' OF THE GURU BUT THEY CANNOT, WILL NOT PAY THE PRICE! THEY
WILL NOT DIE TO SELF OR RECEIVE MARTYRDOM. THEY WANT TO KEEP THEIR
FLESH, EGO, PRIDE AND WORDLY HONOR, AND NOW, THEY WANT THE POSITION OF
THE GURU.
SOME CAN GET EXTERIOR POSITION, BUT IT WILL NOT LAST. SOME CANNOT GET
EVEN THAT. THEY GET NOTHING. SO WHAT DO THEY DO? THEY WANT TO DESTROY
THE IMAGE AND REPUTATION OF THE GURU BY SLANDER, LIES, INNUENDOS AND
TWISTING THE LIFE OF THE GURU AND SPREADING THIS AROUND. THEY ARE
FILLED WITH RAGE AT THE GURU, BECAUSE THEY CANNOT HAVE THE POWER OF
THE GURU. THE GURU TRIES TO REASON WITH SUCH PEOPLE BUT SOME OF THEM
ARE DEMONIC. SOME ARE SO STUBBORN ONLY PUNISHMENT WILL BRING THEM
DOWN. THE GURU HAS POWER AND USES THE POWER OF GOD, IN THESE CASES, TO
PUNISH, TO TRANSMIT THE WRATH OF GOD. IN SOME CASES, SOME OF THESE CAN
BE SAVED BECAUSE THE GURU STILL LOVES THE WICKED, HOPING FOR THEIR
SALVATION. LET US HOPE MANY WICKED WILL BE SAVED AND LOVE OUR LORD GOD!
RASA ANSWERS HARSH CRITICS.
RASA ANSWERS HARSH CRITICS. SHE IS A 'NOT A SAT GURU' AND HAS TOO
MANY MALE
DEVOTEES
Observations made on the lives of Vivekananda, Yogananda, Ramakrishna
and Jesus Our Lord
http://www.womanthouartgod.com/yoga.php
Prajna, you
have basically declared me to be a phony and not a 'Sat Guru,'
because great gurus do not go out seeking devotees?
I give you the example of Jesus Christ and all his followers. I
started out as a Christian and now I am a Yogi who is also Christian
and Matriarchal. I do not follow an absolute Hindu path - I agree
with what Jesus taught and demonstrated. He said,
'Go into all the world. Freely you received, freely give!'
Jesus was an intense, aggressive gatherer of souls, and all his
Apostles, and all his disciples through the ages are filled with ZEAL
and a powerful missionary spirit!
I differ with you also about Sat Gurus, as I know for a fact, that
Baghwan Nityananda walked everywhere seeking souls who eventually
found their way to him, sometimes years later after the initial meeting.
With gurus, it is to each according to their taste. Some like to stay
in one place, like Ramana Maharshi and Ramakrishna. Some like to
travel, like Vivekananda, Maharishi, Raj Neesh, Paramahamsa Yogananda
and so on.
To each their own! Everyone has a different personality! Myself I
spent years in solitude, now I am seeking the lost sheep who need to
be initiated and enlightened. Does that make me a fake?
Now Karin, I am terribly sorry I have mostly male devotees. You say
it is because I have busty blonde models all over my site. HaHaHaHa.
They are probably, some of them mixed up in the flesh and indeed they
are not all holy celibate saints. Some are in ego and flesh, and I am
attempting to bring them higher. I must add however, that I do have
some advanced holy men. If you look at the posts of CJ, Achim, Adam
Smith, Raleigh, and others you will see devoted, highly spiritual
souls. Others have had meaningful dreams about God
and myself. They are growing, they are struggling, I am helping.
As to the situation of my having all males, only one female. Why is
it that opposite sexes attract? Is it my
fault? Or did God create this chemical attraction of the two sexes,
so that male likes female and female likes male? (It seems to me that
a female has to be a sexless, out of shape, totally unattractive
speciman to be liked by other females, because of the competition factor.)
Might I add some important points here. If you would look upon the
lives and devotees of the following saints it would open your eyes.
Vivekananda, a handsome young soul, had primarily female devotees.
These women adored him and did his bidding, assisting in establishing
the center all over the world which were needed. One special lady was
in England. When Vivekananda had to pass on the mantle of his ashram
in India, he left it to a woman. Women were responsible for the
success of Vivekanana's mission. Narendra himself said that the women
were more qualifield than the men - so he favored them. But
understand at base, these women loved him because he was enlightened,
sweetened by the fact that he was a dynamic, charismatic and handsome
person.
Let us examine Paramahamsa Yogananda, one of the most famous who came
to the U.S. I was privileged to go to three of his centers in Los
Angeles. One was an ashram where I prayed and a veggie restaurant
where I ate. A 75 year old former devotee of his waited on me. (this
was about 1970) I visited his lake shrine center dozens of times,
finding much solace there. My point? Some people said Yogananda had
a 'harem' of devotees. He was truly striking. Yes, he had all women
and they established the mission. You tell me why.
Now take a look at Ramakrishna. He was gay. No women were allowed
once the disciples had control. The only woman to get to him when he
was on his deathbed, to bid farewell, was an actress dressed as a man
(she was famous for playing the young Krishna). Occassionally,
prior to the disciples gaining control over his environment, women
visited Ramakrishna, but he seemed to have a distaste for them. One
female who touched his feet in devotion made Ramakrishna cringe. The
exuse for this is that 'she had led a sinful life.' Nevertheless,
Christopher Isherwood's book ('Ramakrishna and his disciplines') tells
us that he was visited regularly by a hopeless alcoholic after the man
had spent his night in a brothel. (Why the double standard?)
As far as Ramakrishna's wife, he preferred to worship her from afar
rather than giving her a good tantric shag. Does that mean he had no
sex desires? He seemed to be attracted to 'his boys' and once thought
about acting out a sex ritual for Lord Krishna. The Incarnation o
fGod rewarded him by breaking his arm, so RamaKrishna claimed!
What have we here? We have chemistry, we have flesh, which is perhaps
at variance with the spirit, but somehow, works together for the good,
to all who love God.
There is an interesting amendment to the harsh report that Rasa has
'all male disciples.' In December, Rasa garnered her first female,
and what a find! Juana, who is an advanced and holy soul, decided to
give Rasa a chance. Rasa assured her that even the Great would
receive something. In a series of ecstatic miracles Rasa first
appeared to Juana in flames of love, initiated her and called her to
the mission. She cut her with a sword and they became blood sisters.
Then she turned into a man, implanting the 'divine kiss.'
Next, Rasa appeared again in majesty and this time did not bother with
changing her gender. She made ecstatic passionate love to Juana under
the image of female, and Juana said she could never be the same. (See
the series of visions on the site, under 'Juana devotee':
http://www.womanthouartgod.com/devoteejuana.php
The anointing of the heterosexual Rasa reached Juana in a way that
proves God transcends gender and can bring ecstatic 'tantra' love to
devotees as male or female - take your pick.
Submitted by Rasa Von Werder
MANY MALE
DEVOTEES
Observations made on the lives of Vivekananda, Yogananda, Ramakrishna
and Jesus Our Lord
http://www.womanthouartgod.com/yoga.php
Prajna, you
have basically declared me to be a phony and not a 'Sat Guru,'
because great gurus do not go out seeking devotees?
I give you the example of Jesus Christ and all his followers. I
started out as a Christian and now I am a Yogi who is also Christian
and Matriarchal. I do not follow an absolute Hindu path - I agree
with what Jesus taught and demonstrated. He said,
'Go into all the world. Freely you received, freely give!'
Jesus was an intense, aggressive gatherer of souls, and all his
Apostles, and all his disciples through the ages are filled with ZEAL
and a powerful missionary spirit!
I differ with you also about Sat Gurus, as I know for a fact, that
Baghwan Nityananda walked everywhere seeking souls who eventually
found their way to him, sometimes years later after the initial meeting.
With gurus, it is to each according to their taste. Some like to stay
in one place, like Ramana Maharshi and Ramakrishna. Some like to
travel, like Vivekananda, Maharishi, Raj Neesh, Paramahamsa Yogananda
and so on.
To each their own! Everyone has a different personality! Myself I
spent years in solitude, now I am seeking the lost sheep who need to
be initiated and enlightened. Does that make me a fake?
Now Karin, I am terribly sorry I have mostly male devotees. You say
it is because I have busty blonde models all over my site. HaHaHaHa.
They are probably, some of them mixed up in the flesh and indeed they
are not all holy celibate saints. Some are in ego and flesh, and I am
attempting to bring them higher. I must add however, that I do have
some advanced holy men. If you look at the posts of CJ, Achim, Adam
Smith, Raleigh, and others you will see devoted, highly spiritual
souls. Others have had meaningful dreams about God
and myself. They are growing, they are struggling, I am helping.
As to the situation of my having all males, only one female. Why is
it that opposite sexes attract? Is it my
fault? Or did God create this chemical attraction of the two sexes,
so that male likes female and female likes male? (It seems to me that
a female has to be a sexless, out of shape, totally unattractive
speciman to be liked by other females, because of the competition factor.)
Might I add some important points here. If you would look upon the
lives and devotees of the following saints it would open your eyes.
Vivekananda, a handsome young soul, had primarily female devotees.
These women adored him and did his bidding, assisting in establishing
the center all over the world which were needed. One special lady was
in England. When Vivekananda had to pass on the mantle of his ashram
in India, he left it to a woman. Women were responsible for the
success of Vivekanana's mission. Narendra himself said that the women
were more qualifield than the men - so he favored them. But
understand at base, these women loved him because he was enlightened,
sweetened by the fact that he was a dynamic, charismatic and handsome
person.
Let us examine Paramahamsa Yogananda, one of the most famous who came
to the U.S. I was privileged to go to three of his centers in Los
Angeles. One was an ashram where I prayed and a veggie restaurant
where I ate. A 75 year old former devotee of his waited on me. (this
was about 1970) I visited his lake shrine center dozens of times,
finding much solace there. My point? Some people said Yogananda had
a 'harem' of devotees. He was truly striking. Yes, he had all women
and they established the mission. You tell me why.
Now take a look at Ramakrishna. He was gay. No women were allowed
once the disciples had control. The only woman to get to him when he
was on his deathbed, to bid farewell, was an actress dressed as a man
(she was famous for playing the young Krishna). Occassionally,
prior to the disciples gaining control over his environment, women
visited Ramakrishna, but he seemed to have a distaste for them. One
female who touched his feet in devotion made Ramakrishna cringe. The
exuse for this is that 'she had led a sinful life.' Nevertheless,
Christopher Isherwood's book ('Ramakrishna and his disciplines') tells
us that he was visited regularly by a hopeless alcoholic after the man
had spent his night in a brothel. (Why the double standard?)
As far as Ramakrishna's wife, he preferred to worship her from afar
rather than giving her a good tantric shag. Does that mean he had no
sex desires? He seemed to be attracted to 'his boys' and once thought
about acting out a sex ritual for Lord Krishna. The Incarnation o
fGod rewarded him by breaking his arm, so RamaKrishna claimed!
What have we here? We have chemistry, we have flesh, which is perhaps
at variance with the spirit, but somehow, works together for the good,
to all who love God.
There is an interesting amendment to the harsh report that Rasa has
'all male disciples.' In December, Rasa garnered her first female,
and what a find! Juana, who is an advanced and holy soul, decided to
give Rasa a chance. Rasa assured her that even the Great would
receive something. In a series of ecstatic miracles Rasa first
appeared to Juana in flames of love, initiated her and called her to
the mission. She cut her with a sword and they became blood sisters.
Then she turned into a man, implanting the 'divine kiss.'
Next, Rasa appeared again in majesty and this time did not bother with
changing her gender. She made ecstatic passionate love to Juana under
the image of female, and Juana said she could never be the same. (See
the series of visions on the site, under 'Juana devotee':
http://www.womanthouartgod.com/devoteejuana.php
The anointing of the heterosexual Rasa reached Juana in a way that
proves God transcends gender and can bring ecstatic 'tantra' love to
devotees as male or female - take your pick.
Submitted by Rasa Von Werder
ARE JESUS, MARY, BRAHMAN, KRISHNA, REAL OR DO THEY ALL COME FROM THE GOD WITHIN?
Rasa Von Werder answers Achim
http://www.womanthouartgod.com/beatific.php
THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU WHAT FOLLOWS:
YOU SAY THAT YOU WERE EXPERIENCING, AMONG OTHER IMPORTANT SPIRITUAL
EXPERIENCES, A BETROTHAL TO JESUS. SO YOU LOVE HIM VERY MUCH. AS I
LOVE HIM TOO. AND YOU SAY THAT IT DEPENDS ON THE BACKGROUND OF A
PERSON, WHAT KIND OF GOD SOMEONE ENCOUNTERS. THE QUESTION I HAVE IS:
HOW REAL ARE THE GODS AND GODDESSES WHO WE WORSHIP AND LOVE, OR EVEN
ARE ENGAGED WITH OR MARRIED TO? ARE THEY JUST CULTURALLY INFLUENCED
SYMBOLS AND IMAGES OUR BRAINS GENERATE BECAUSE WE ARE NOT ABLE TO
SHOW LOVE TO AN INFINITE GOD
*** This is so profound and difficult I will have to channel the God
within me. I have never gotten a definitive answer to this before. I
will now try. My God within, what is the answer to this?
GOD WITHIN:
*** Each human being has to learn how to kow- tow (bend, surrender)
to the God Within, but Churches and Mosques and Temples and Religions
do not have symbols of That God within them. But it is That God Whom
you must reach. In leui or as a substitute for the God within you,
religions present cultural symbols of God, such as Matriarchal or
Patriarchal symbols, according to what they believe or want you to
believe. But ultimately, it is the God Within that you must reach.
When Rasa worshipped Jesus she eventually reached the God Within
through him. (Also meditating yoga style she reached the Atman and
spoke much to It at an earlier time.) He was the symbol and the
inspiration for all that had to be done to go from flesh to Spirit.
His words, his gospel, his death on the cross are all markers of the
Way, the Truth and the Life. You do what He did, you 'become' God or
reach God within you.
This is no different than yoga, as Rasa discovered, and so, she claims
this strongly. Jesus is the Guru of Christianity and He was teaching
yoga - not the Hebrew way of worship. (The Hebrew way of worship
being rather dualistic, although the highest mystics, as usual, get
the point of the God within.)
When 'Jesus' appears is it the historical Jesus or the God within?
One cannot say that Jesus, Mary or saints never appear to us as those
great historical figures. However, in most cases it might just be the
God Within appearing in that form, explaining to us exactly where we
are on the Highway of Love. So at the betrothal, Rasa became a Saint
or entered into the first part of the Unitive way (the Unitive being a
high position with God....one begins to be AtOne with God.) God
appears as Jesus because Rasa is praying to Jesus.
(OR EVEN WORSE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT
IS YOUR POSITION OF COURSE, WE ARE NOT ABLE TO LIVE IN A UNIVERSE
THAT HAS NO INTEREST IN US AT ALL,)
*** There have been many - psychologists, intellectuals, occultists
and such - who say that all this is created by the mind and goes no
farther. However, if you study these persons as I have (study their
lives and see their interior state in vision,) you will find in some
cases they are spiritually dead and many enter into Hell. And so,
they are not able to manufacture the thing that the saints have! They
are not able to rise up into Heaven by psychology, occultism or
intellectualism! There is something far beyond the human mind going
on! Yoga is very good at explaining that we have to go past the mind,
literally discard the mind, to enter into Heaven on earth and in
eternity. The mind itself is a curtain or stumbling block. Live in
the mind/brain alone and you will never attain God. (Now, by the word
mind I am speaking of the mind or attention, or focus being no farther
than the earth and the thoughts and ideas of the earth or even of
loftier things - but falling short of Love and God.....these
intellectual creations go in a circle, round and round and always come
back to the individual and the ego.) Again, the ego and the mind are
the curtain between us and God, and it is through devotional worship
we get past them.
In some cases, the sadhakas (meditators, seekers) might not stand out
as greatly loving people or devoted saints. However, by their decision
to give up everything for God - or the Absolute Truth - (although
these souls are not particularly self-sacrificing toward others in the
way Jesus taught), however they have given up everything for the
Absolute. So they have sacrificed the ego, mind, flesh, and the
world. These souls also attain Reality, Enlightenment and the Absolute.
OR IS THERE A MULTITUDE OF GODS
WHO MAY NOT EVEN KNOW EACH OTHER (LIKE THE GURUS WE HAVE HERE ON
EARTH)?
*** Those saints who ascend into Heaven know what they have to know
but they do not know everything. The Gods which are archetypes - who
knows what is going on here? Look at the Pantheon of Hindu Gods.
Brahman, Shiva, Shakti,.....are they real? They are real symbols and
they manifest to us as real. God takes on the clothing of an image or
a body and appears to us and becomes real. Whatever way you worship
or believe, that is the way God will appear to you!
OR IS THERE SOME KIND OF HIERARCHY IN THE SPIRITUAL WORLD?
IS THERE ONE GOD WHO IS JOYFULLY ACCEPTING OR EVEN GENERATING THE
LOVE PEOPLE SHOW THE DIFFERENT GODS OF THEIR CULTURE?
*** Who is there among humans who can understand the One Central
God? Can we hold Infinity in our minds and hearts? Everything we
see, think of and imagine is a manifestation of God. We are like ants
to Infinity, and we try and understand It? Like they say, we must
dissolve in the Infinite Ocean of Bliss to get some idea of Who and
What God is. While we are in the human consciousness, it is impossible.
As we surrender all that is of our lower selves, we lose ourselves but
gain God and understanding of God. This is the entire work of
salvation, redemption, devotion. All roads lead to Rome. All good
religions teach us to let go of our lower nature, to die to self, and
then, we rise up to God through grace. Then we see the bigger picture.
BUT IF THAT IS
TRUE SHOULDN'T THERE BE A DIRECT CONNECTION TO THAT ONE GOD ALSO? AS
SOON AS I THOUGHT THAT WAY I WOULD LIKE TO LOVE THAT ONE GOD. HOW
REAL IS JESUS, HOW REAL IS MARY, HOW REAL IS KRISHNA? DO THEY REALLY
HEAR OUR PRAYERS OR DOES OUR DEVOTION TO THEM ONLY HELP US TO FIND
THE GOD IN OURSELVES? BUT IF THAT IS SO, WHY NOT DIRECTLY SEARCH FOR
GOD IN OURSELVES? WHY LIVING IN AN ILLUSION?
*** Yoga does teach that. Siddha yoga is the one I know best, from
Muktananda. He implored his devotees to love and honor the Self,
meaning God Within. Buddhism certainly teaches that. You should
really find the God within you - that is the work, the ultimate goal.
But few religions say that. So those who say,
'I am God....God and I are one....I have seen God face to face and God
and I are the same....'
You saw what happened when I put up my group, 'I Saw God and Lived.'
There was an immediate barrage of extreme attacks from the religious,
accusing me of blaspheming and deadly sin. It is because religion
does not for the most part teach us to seek the God within, but a
symbol of God without.
Let me say this in conclusion:
God within is the Infinite God! When you reach This God within you,
you are there! The greater your surrender and death to self, the
greater will be your acceptance and comprehension of the Infinite God.
You manifest this Infinite God when you die to all things but God.
I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION /QUESTIONS THAT REALLY
SATISFIES MY MIND AND MY HEART AT THE SAME TIME BY KNOW. IF YOU
COULD HELP ME, I WOULD BE VERY GRATEFUL.
LOVE AND THANKS A LOT IN ADVANCE
ACHIM
http://www.womanthouartgod.com/beatific.php
THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU WHAT FOLLOWS:
YOU SAY THAT YOU WERE EXPERIENCING, AMONG OTHER IMPORTANT SPIRITUAL
EXPERIENCES, A BETROTHAL TO JESUS. SO YOU LOVE HIM VERY MUCH. AS I
LOVE HIM TOO. AND YOU SAY THAT IT DEPENDS ON THE BACKGROUND OF A
PERSON, WHAT KIND OF GOD SOMEONE ENCOUNTERS. THE QUESTION I HAVE IS:
HOW REAL ARE THE GODS AND GODDESSES WHO WE WORSHIP AND LOVE, OR EVEN
ARE ENGAGED WITH OR MARRIED TO? ARE THEY JUST CULTURALLY INFLUENCED
SYMBOLS AND IMAGES OUR BRAINS GENERATE BECAUSE WE ARE NOT ABLE TO
SHOW LOVE TO AN INFINITE GOD
*** This is so profound and difficult I will have to channel the God
within me. I have never gotten a definitive answer to this before. I
will now try. My God within, what is the answer to this?
GOD WITHIN:
*** Each human being has to learn how to kow- tow (bend, surrender)
to the God Within, but Churches and Mosques and Temples and Religions
do not have symbols of That God within them. But it is That God Whom
you must reach. In leui or as a substitute for the God within you,
religions present cultural symbols of God, such as Matriarchal or
Patriarchal symbols, according to what they believe or want you to
believe. But ultimately, it is the God Within that you must reach.
When Rasa worshipped Jesus she eventually reached the God Within
through him. (Also meditating yoga style she reached the Atman and
spoke much to It at an earlier time.) He was the symbol and the
inspiration for all that had to be done to go from flesh to Spirit.
His words, his gospel, his death on the cross are all markers of the
Way, the Truth and the Life. You do what He did, you 'become' God or
reach God within you.
This is no different than yoga, as Rasa discovered, and so, she claims
this strongly. Jesus is the Guru of Christianity and He was teaching
yoga - not the Hebrew way of worship. (The Hebrew way of worship
being rather dualistic, although the highest mystics, as usual, get
the point of the God within.)
When 'Jesus' appears is it the historical Jesus or the God within?
One cannot say that Jesus, Mary or saints never appear to us as those
great historical figures. However, in most cases it might just be the
God Within appearing in that form, explaining to us exactly where we
are on the Highway of Love. So at the betrothal, Rasa became a Saint
or entered into the first part of the Unitive way (the Unitive being a
high position with God....one begins to be AtOne with God.) God
appears as Jesus because Rasa is praying to Jesus.
(OR EVEN WORSE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT
IS YOUR POSITION OF COURSE, WE ARE NOT ABLE TO LIVE IN A UNIVERSE
THAT HAS NO INTEREST IN US AT ALL,)
*** There have been many - psychologists, intellectuals, occultists
and such - who say that all this is created by the mind and goes no
farther. However, if you study these persons as I have (study their
lives and see their interior state in vision,) you will find in some
cases they are spiritually dead and many enter into Hell. And so,
they are not able to manufacture the thing that the saints have! They
are not able to rise up into Heaven by psychology, occultism or
intellectualism! There is something far beyond the human mind going
on! Yoga is very good at explaining that we have to go past the mind,
literally discard the mind, to enter into Heaven on earth and in
eternity. The mind itself is a curtain or stumbling block. Live in
the mind/brain alone and you will never attain God. (Now, by the word
mind I am speaking of the mind or attention, or focus being no farther
than the earth and the thoughts and ideas of the earth or even of
loftier things - but falling short of Love and God.....these
intellectual creations go in a circle, round and round and always come
back to the individual and the ego.) Again, the ego and the mind are
the curtain between us and God, and it is through devotional worship
we get past them.
In some cases, the sadhakas (meditators, seekers) might not stand out
as greatly loving people or devoted saints. However, by their decision
to give up everything for God - or the Absolute Truth - (although
these souls are not particularly self-sacrificing toward others in the
way Jesus taught), however they have given up everything for the
Absolute. So they have sacrificed the ego, mind, flesh, and the
world. These souls also attain Reality, Enlightenment and the Absolute.
OR IS THERE A MULTITUDE OF GODS
WHO MAY NOT EVEN KNOW EACH OTHER (LIKE THE GURUS WE HAVE HERE ON
EARTH)?
*** Those saints who ascend into Heaven know what they have to know
but they do not know everything. The Gods which are archetypes - who
knows what is going on here? Look at the Pantheon of Hindu Gods.
Brahman, Shiva, Shakti,.....are they real? They are real symbols and
they manifest to us as real. God takes on the clothing of an image or
a body and appears to us and becomes real. Whatever way you worship
or believe, that is the way God will appear to you!
OR IS THERE SOME KIND OF HIERARCHY IN THE SPIRITUAL WORLD?
IS THERE ONE GOD WHO IS JOYFULLY ACCEPTING OR EVEN GENERATING THE
LOVE PEOPLE SHOW THE DIFFERENT GODS OF THEIR CULTURE?
*** Who is there among humans who can understand the One Central
God? Can we hold Infinity in our minds and hearts? Everything we
see, think of and imagine is a manifestation of God. We are like ants
to Infinity, and we try and understand It? Like they say, we must
dissolve in the Infinite Ocean of Bliss to get some idea of Who and
What God is. While we are in the human consciousness, it is impossible.
As we surrender all that is of our lower selves, we lose ourselves but
gain God and understanding of God. This is the entire work of
salvation, redemption, devotion. All roads lead to Rome. All good
religions teach us to let go of our lower nature, to die to self, and
then, we rise up to God through grace. Then we see the bigger picture.
BUT IF THAT IS
TRUE SHOULDN'T THERE BE A DIRECT CONNECTION TO THAT ONE GOD ALSO? AS
SOON AS I THOUGHT THAT WAY I WOULD LIKE TO LOVE THAT ONE GOD. HOW
REAL IS JESUS, HOW REAL IS MARY, HOW REAL IS KRISHNA? DO THEY REALLY
HEAR OUR PRAYERS OR DOES OUR DEVOTION TO THEM ONLY HELP US TO FIND
THE GOD IN OURSELVES? BUT IF THAT IS SO, WHY NOT DIRECTLY SEARCH FOR
GOD IN OURSELVES? WHY LIVING IN AN ILLUSION?
*** Yoga does teach that. Siddha yoga is the one I know best, from
Muktananda. He implored his devotees to love and honor the Self,
meaning God Within. Buddhism certainly teaches that. You should
really find the God within you - that is the work, the ultimate goal.
But few religions say that. So those who say,
'I am God....God and I are one....I have seen God face to face and God
and I are the same....'
You saw what happened when I put up my group, 'I Saw God and Lived.'
There was an immediate barrage of extreme attacks from the religious,
accusing me of blaspheming and deadly sin. It is because religion
does not for the most part teach us to seek the God within, but a
symbol of God without.
Let me say this in conclusion:
God within is the Infinite God! When you reach This God within you,
you are there! The greater your surrender and death to self, the
greater will be your acceptance and comprehension of the Infinite God.
You manifest this Infinite God when you die to all things but God.
I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION /QUESTIONS THAT REALLY
SATISFIES MY MIND AND MY HEART AT THE SAME TIME BY KNOW. IF YOU
COULD HELP ME, I WOULD BE VERY GRATEFUL.
LOVE AND THANKS A LOT IN ADVANCE
ACHIM
PURGATORY BELIEVED BY MANY RELIGIONS!
Dear Kyle,
That was, indeed, a thoughtful response to my dream on Richard Pryor
in Purgatory. I will answer your questions.
The ministry was given me by God, by Jesus and Mary specifically.
Mary has a very active part in purgatorial work, and She appeared to
me many years ago to give me my first celebrity in purgatory (as an
infant, I did not know who he was till later) and it was Errol Flynn.
You can read the entire e book on my site on this.
Why I was given the ministry: For one reason, because I prayed daily,
fervently, that God would help them.
Secondly, because I practiced celibacy and another gift I had been
given during the betrothal with Jesus was that I would have 'spiritual
relationships with men.' And this followed along with that.
As far as why a ministry to purgtory? Why pray for them, why suffer
for them? When the mercy of God is enough. Because it is our sacred
duty. When you or I want help, we often seek the intercession of the
Saints in Heaven, do we not? Yes, and they help us. The intercessors
for the souls in purgatory are not saints, but we the living on earth,
the 'Church Militant.'
Rewards of serving purgatory: Incredible good karma! Profound
protection and answer to prayer. Incredible graces and spiritual
light because this is perhaps the greatest charity there is.
The urgency of helping purgatorial souls: Many are abandoned,
forgotten, and getting no spirtual nourishment except the agonizingly
long stretch of pain which is ahead of them. All but forgotten, it
seems like hundreds of years. They cry bitterly. I have been given
such souls from the arms of Our Blessed Lady. They did not want to
leave her! But I promised them they would be given back to Her, and
after I suffered and prayed for them, they were!
Ministering in dreams. The dreams are a tool but not the ministry
itself. The dreams are a vision of facts - receiving a soul, gaging
the improvement, and then seeing them ascend into Heaven in great
rejoicing. A dream does not release a soul, it gives me information.
Greatest pain in purgatory as well as Hell: The separation from God.
There is no greater pain anywhere, including the Earth. Separation
from God says it all.
Rasa Von Werder
Dec. 16, 2005
P.S. Why not give a soul in purgatory the recitation of a rosary for
Christmas, or receive Holy Communion for them ?
Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:29 pm
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That was, indeed, a thoughtful response to my dream on Richard Pryor
in Purgatory. I will answer your questions.
The ministry was given me by God, by Jesus and Mary specifically.
Mary has a very active part in purgatorial work, and She appeared to
me many years ago to give me my first celebrity in purgatory (as an
infant, I did not know who he was till later) and it was Errol Flynn.
You can read the entire e book on my site on this.
Why I was given the ministry: For one reason, because I prayed daily,
fervently, that God would help them.
Secondly, because I practiced celibacy and another gift I had been
given during the betrothal with Jesus was that I would have 'spiritual
relationships with men.' And this followed along with that.
As far as why a ministry to purgtory? Why pray for them, why suffer
for them? When the mercy of God is enough. Because it is our sacred
duty. When you or I want help, we often seek the intercession of the
Saints in Heaven, do we not? Yes, and they help us. The intercessors
for the souls in purgatory are not saints, but we the living on earth,
the 'Church Militant.'
Rewards of serving purgatory: Incredible good karma! Profound
protection and answer to prayer. Incredible graces and spiritual
light because this is perhaps the greatest charity there is.
The urgency of helping purgatorial souls: Many are abandoned,
forgotten, and getting no spirtual nourishment except the agonizingly
long stretch of pain which is ahead of them. All but forgotten, it
seems like hundreds of years. They cry bitterly. I have been given
such souls from the arms of Our Blessed Lady. They did not want to
leave her! But I promised them they would be given back to Her, and
after I suffered and prayed for them, they were!
Ministering in dreams. The dreams are a tool but not the ministry
itself. The dreams are a vision of facts - receiving a soul, gaging
the improvement, and then seeing them ascend into Heaven in great
rejoicing. A dream does not release a soul, it gives me information.
Greatest pain in purgatory as well as Hell: The separation from God.
There is no greater pain anywhere, including the Earth. Separation
from God says it all.
Rasa Von Werder
Dec. 16, 2005
P.S. Why not give a soul in purgatory the recitation of a rosary for
Christmas, or receive Holy Communion for them ?
Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:29 pm
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RICHARD PRYOR BEGINS STINT IN PURGATORY
http://www.womanthouartgod.com/purgatory.php
FOR ABOUT A YEAR NOW I HAVE BEEN MINISTERING TO RICHARD PRYOR. I see
my souls in dreams - souls in purgatory - souls on earth. I see what
state they are in, their inner spiritual state, the good, the bad and
the ugly - and Richard's was pretty bad.
About a year ago I had a dream regarding a suicide. I was there to
prevent the man from going to Hell! It was one of the most
frightening dreams I had ever had, the kind that make you cringe and
wish you were not there. A man impaled himself on a cross, literally,
by his own wish, impaled himself, and he had no head! Somehow God had
me appear right there to make sure he would not go to Hell! I had no
idea who the man was. I assumed he was a man who actually did kill
himself and my presence helped.
A short time later, I had more dreams, a few, and they were concerning
Richard Pryor. Why was I dreaming of him? Was he dead? I asked my
webman. He looked it up and said no, Mr. Pryor was still living.
Then I realized that the suicide dream was about his 1980 freebase
cocaine incident, which he claimed was a suicide attempt. My being
there prevented his death (so it seems to me based on the dream I
had), as he was indeed on his way to Hell! Thereafter I was
ministering to him in the past year - apparantly preparing him for the
real death that was coming. He was in deplorable shape, but improving
with each dream I had. Just as with souls in purgatory, grace was
being transmitted to Richard Pryor through me.
I thought about it. The only conclusion I could come to was that God
wanted to help him. I knew him, and some sort of a link had been
made. He needed help and apparantly deserved it, so God gave him help
through me. I accepted it just as I accept any ministry to a soul in
purgatory. The fact that he was living was unusual - a special case.
Months passed and I forgot about him. Then upon getting up on the
10th of December I recorded a dream. This was the dream.
'I See Frank Sinatra' Dream
I go to a nightclub where Frank Sinatra is seated before a small group
- say 20-30 people - holding court. He is on some kind of stage about
a foot higher than the audience, and they are close and intimate. He
looks better than I have ever seen him. He does not look like
himself. About 40 years old with curly salt and pepper silver hair.
The atmosphere is calm, like he is just sitting there casually,
quietly, speaking with this group of people.
I approach sheepishly because I want to tell the story of when I first
met him (Frank) in purgatory and what he said to me was,
'Can I get a blow job?'
I tell them this story and say I hope it doesn't get me 'thrown out or
banned.' I am very shy about this.
He looks at me. He is not offended at all. Just takes it in stride.
I do not join his party but go off to the side, and sit on the floor
with my daughter near me.
He finishes his 'show' and is now going to his dressing room, which is
about 20 feet in front of me. The scenario of it is unusual.
It is a small room, and within it is a foldout couch. The room is
only about 7X7' approximately, and when the foldout couch is opened,
it extends out of the door of the room, and the bed is about 5X5'.
Now the unusual part happens.
Franks stands there and looks at me, summoning me with his eyes and a
nod. He asks his servant to call me so I can join him in the dressing
room, - a special priviledge.
I go there, but I decline to sit on the foldout bed, I just sit on the
floor with my daughter.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
end of dream
Now I was thinking, why am I dreaming of Frank Sinatra? It does not
make sense. Frank is in Heaven - as I ministered to him years ago and
he rose up. What could this dream mean? I went to my computer to
answer mail and there was the announcement that R. Pryor was dead.
There it was. Sinatra, for some reason, represented Pryor. Now the
dream made sense. Let me run it by you again.
Richard Pryor Appears to Me Under the Guise of Frank Sinatra
I go to a nightclub where Frank Sinatra is seated before a small group
- say 20-30 people - holding court. He is on some kind of stage about
a foot higher than the audience, and they are close and intimate. He
looks better than I have ever seen him. He does not look like
himself, about 40 years old with curly salt and pepper silver hair.
The atmosphere is calm, like he is just sitting there casually,
quietly, speaking with this group of people.
*** THIS IS EXACTLY THE SCENE OF HOW AND WHERE I MET RICHARD PRYOR,
MANY YEARS AGO, IN LOS ANGELES. HE WAS IN A NIGHTCLUB SITTING AGAINST
THE WALL, AND ABOUT 20-30 PEOPLE SURROUNDED HIM AS HE HELD COURT. I
JOINED THE GROUP.
I approach sheepishly because I want to tell the story of when I first
met him (Frank) in purgatory and what he said to me was,
'Can I get a blow job?'
I tell them this story and say I hope it doesn't get me 'thrown out or
banned.' I am very shy about this.
*** THIS IS A TRUE STORY CONCERNING FRANK. BUT IT SORT OF APPLIES TO
RICHARD. BECAUSE RICHARD, IN REAL LIFE, WANTED TO HAVE A SEX
EXPERIENCE WITH ME, ALSO. (I DECLINED) AND SO, I AM ALLUDING TO THE
TIME RICHARD AND I SPOKE, AND I DECLINED HIS PROPOSITION. I AM
PERHAPS SHEEPISH BECAUSE IT MIGHT HAVE HURT HIS FEELINGS.
He looks at me. He is not offended at all. Just takes it in stride.
*** THIS IS TELLING ME IT WAS OK, HE WAS NOT OFFENDED.
I do not join his party but go off to the side, and sit on the floor
with my daughter near me.
*** IN DREAMS, MY DAUGHTER IS ALMOST ALWAYS MY FLESH. THE DREAMER IS
USUALLY THE SPIRIT - THE HIGHER SELF.
He finishes his 'show'
*** HIS 'SHOW' IS HIS LIFE! HE HAS FINISHED HIS LIFE, AND IS NOW
GOING TO HIS PLACE OF CONFINEMENT OR CLEANSING IN PURGATORY!
and is now going to his dressing room, which is about 20 feet in front
of me. The scenario of it is unusual.
It is a small room, and within it is a foldout couch. The room is
only about 7X8' approximately, and when the foldout couch is opened,
it extends out of the door of the room, and the bed is about 5X5'.
*** THE FACT THAT THE BED IS A PERFECT SQUARE IS A CLUE. THIS IS A
PLACE OF 'PERFECTION.' ITS MEANING WILL BE EVIDENT LATER ON.
Now the unusual part happens.
Franks stands there and looks at me, summoning me with his eyes and a nod.
*** WHEN THE FINAL CURTAIN HAS CLOSED, AND RICHARD HAS LEFT HIS
FRIENDS AND FANS, HE GOES TO HIS PLACE IN PURGATORY. AND THEN, THE
ONLY PERSON HE 'CALLS' IS MYSELF. WHY? GOOD QUESTION. THIS IS MY
ANOINTING. HE IS ABLE TO SEE ME, TO CONTACT ME, AND HAVE ME GO AND ON
SOME LEVEL, JOIN HIM IN HIS PURGATORIAL DOMAIN!
He asks his servant to assist me
*** GUARDIAN ANGEL
so I can join him in the dressing room, - a special priviledge.
I go there, but I decline to sit on the foldout bed, I just sit on the
floor with my daughter.
*** THE FACT THAT I DO NOT LOUNGE ON THE BED IS A CLUE OF WHY I HAVE
THIS SPECIAL PRIVILEDGE OF ASSISTING SOULS IN PURGATORY. IT IS MY
CELIBACY. THE BED MEANS 'PERFECT' BUT SITTING ON THE FLOOR WITH MY
DAUGHTER(FLESH) IS A SELF SACRIFICE. SAYING NO TO SEX, HUMBLY
SITTING ON THE FLOOR. THEREIN IS A TYPE OF PERFECTION CALLED
'CHASTITY' WHICH HAS GIVEN ME THE KEY TO ENTER PURGATORY!WONDERFUL
REVELATION!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Now begins the cleansing of Richard Pryor with myself assisting. I
will certainly let the public know of his progress and when he enters
into Heaven!
Rasa Von Werder
FOR ABOUT A YEAR NOW I HAVE BEEN MINISTERING TO RICHARD PRYOR. I see
my souls in dreams - souls in purgatory - souls on earth. I see what
state they are in, their inner spiritual state, the good, the bad and
the ugly - and Richard's was pretty bad.
About a year ago I had a dream regarding a suicide. I was there to
prevent the man from going to Hell! It was one of the most
frightening dreams I had ever had, the kind that make you cringe and
wish you were not there. A man impaled himself on a cross, literally,
by his own wish, impaled himself, and he had no head! Somehow God had
me appear right there to make sure he would not go to Hell! I had no
idea who the man was. I assumed he was a man who actually did kill
himself and my presence helped.
A short time later, I had more dreams, a few, and they were concerning
Richard Pryor. Why was I dreaming of him? Was he dead? I asked my
webman. He looked it up and said no, Mr. Pryor was still living.
Then I realized that the suicide dream was about his 1980 freebase
cocaine incident, which he claimed was a suicide attempt. My being
there prevented his death (so it seems to me based on the dream I
had), as he was indeed on his way to Hell! Thereafter I was
ministering to him in the past year - apparantly preparing him for the
real death that was coming. He was in deplorable shape, but improving
with each dream I had. Just as with souls in purgatory, grace was
being transmitted to Richard Pryor through me.
I thought about it. The only conclusion I could come to was that God
wanted to help him. I knew him, and some sort of a link had been
made. He needed help and apparantly deserved it, so God gave him help
through me. I accepted it just as I accept any ministry to a soul in
purgatory. The fact that he was living was unusual - a special case.
Months passed and I forgot about him. Then upon getting up on the
10th of December I recorded a dream. This was the dream.
'I See Frank Sinatra' Dream
I go to a nightclub where Frank Sinatra is seated before a small group
- say 20-30 people - holding court. He is on some kind of stage about
a foot higher than the audience, and they are close and intimate. He
looks better than I have ever seen him. He does not look like
himself. About 40 years old with curly salt and pepper silver hair.
The atmosphere is calm, like he is just sitting there casually,
quietly, speaking with this group of people.
I approach sheepishly because I want to tell the story of when I first
met him (Frank) in purgatory and what he said to me was,
'Can I get a blow job?'
I tell them this story and say I hope it doesn't get me 'thrown out or
banned.' I am very shy about this.
He looks at me. He is not offended at all. Just takes it in stride.
I do not join his party but go off to the side, and sit on the floor
with my daughter near me.
He finishes his 'show' and is now going to his dressing room, which is
about 20 feet in front of me. The scenario of it is unusual.
It is a small room, and within it is a foldout couch. The room is
only about 7X7' approximately, and when the foldout couch is opened,
it extends out of the door of the room, and the bed is about 5X5'.
Now the unusual part happens.
Franks stands there and looks at me, summoning me with his eyes and a
nod. He asks his servant to call me so I can join him in the dressing
room, - a special priviledge.
I go there, but I decline to sit on the foldout bed, I just sit on the
floor with my daughter.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
end of dream
Now I was thinking, why am I dreaming of Frank Sinatra? It does not
make sense. Frank is in Heaven - as I ministered to him years ago and
he rose up. What could this dream mean? I went to my computer to
answer mail and there was the announcement that R. Pryor was dead.
There it was. Sinatra, for some reason, represented Pryor. Now the
dream made sense. Let me run it by you again.
Richard Pryor Appears to Me Under the Guise of Frank Sinatra
I go to a nightclub where Frank Sinatra is seated before a small group
- say 20-30 people - holding court. He is on some kind of stage about
a foot higher than the audience, and they are close and intimate. He
looks better than I have ever seen him. He does not look like
himself, about 40 years old with curly salt and pepper silver hair.
The atmosphere is calm, like he is just sitting there casually,
quietly, speaking with this group of people.
*** THIS IS EXACTLY THE SCENE OF HOW AND WHERE I MET RICHARD PRYOR,
MANY YEARS AGO, IN LOS ANGELES. HE WAS IN A NIGHTCLUB SITTING AGAINST
THE WALL, AND ABOUT 20-30 PEOPLE SURROUNDED HIM AS HE HELD COURT. I
JOINED THE GROUP.
I approach sheepishly because I want to tell the story of when I first
met him (Frank) in purgatory and what he said to me was,
'Can I get a blow job?'
I tell them this story and say I hope it doesn't get me 'thrown out or
banned.' I am very shy about this.
*** THIS IS A TRUE STORY CONCERNING FRANK. BUT IT SORT OF APPLIES TO
RICHARD. BECAUSE RICHARD, IN REAL LIFE, WANTED TO HAVE A SEX
EXPERIENCE WITH ME, ALSO. (I DECLINED) AND SO, I AM ALLUDING TO THE
TIME RICHARD AND I SPOKE, AND I DECLINED HIS PROPOSITION. I AM
PERHAPS SHEEPISH BECAUSE IT MIGHT HAVE HURT HIS FEELINGS.
He looks at me. He is not offended at all. Just takes it in stride.
*** THIS IS TELLING ME IT WAS OK, HE WAS NOT OFFENDED.
I do not join his party but go off to the side, and sit on the floor
with my daughter near me.
*** IN DREAMS, MY DAUGHTER IS ALMOST ALWAYS MY FLESH. THE DREAMER IS
USUALLY THE SPIRIT - THE HIGHER SELF.
He finishes his 'show'
*** HIS 'SHOW' IS HIS LIFE! HE HAS FINISHED HIS LIFE, AND IS NOW
GOING TO HIS PLACE OF CONFINEMENT OR CLEANSING IN PURGATORY!
and is now going to his dressing room, which is about 20 feet in front
of me. The scenario of it is unusual.
It is a small room, and within it is a foldout couch. The room is
only about 7X8' approximately, and when the foldout couch is opened,
it extends out of the door of the room, and the bed is about 5X5'.
*** THE FACT THAT THE BED IS A PERFECT SQUARE IS A CLUE. THIS IS A
PLACE OF 'PERFECTION.' ITS MEANING WILL BE EVIDENT LATER ON.
Now the unusual part happens.
Franks stands there and looks at me, summoning me with his eyes and a nod.
*** WHEN THE FINAL CURTAIN HAS CLOSED, AND RICHARD HAS LEFT HIS
FRIENDS AND FANS, HE GOES TO HIS PLACE IN PURGATORY. AND THEN, THE
ONLY PERSON HE 'CALLS' IS MYSELF. WHY? GOOD QUESTION. THIS IS MY
ANOINTING. HE IS ABLE TO SEE ME, TO CONTACT ME, AND HAVE ME GO AND ON
SOME LEVEL, JOIN HIM IN HIS PURGATORIAL DOMAIN!
He asks his servant to assist me
*** GUARDIAN ANGEL
so I can join him in the dressing room, - a special priviledge.
I go there, but I decline to sit on the foldout bed, I just sit on the
floor with my daughter.
*** THE FACT THAT I DO NOT LOUNGE ON THE BED IS A CLUE OF WHY I HAVE
THIS SPECIAL PRIVILEDGE OF ASSISTING SOULS IN PURGATORY. IT IS MY
CELIBACY. THE BED MEANS 'PERFECT' BUT SITTING ON THE FLOOR WITH MY
DAUGHTER(FLESH) IS A SELF SACRIFICE. SAYING NO TO SEX, HUMBLY
SITTING ON THE FLOOR. THEREIN IS A TYPE OF PERFECTION CALLED
'CHASTITY' WHICH HAS GIVEN ME THE KEY TO ENTER PURGATORY!WONDERFUL
REVELATION!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Now begins the cleansing of Richard Pryor with myself assisting. I
will certainly let the public know of his progress and when he enters
into Heaven!
Rasa Von Werder
PHENOMENONS HAPPEN WHEN ONE IS CLOSE TO GOD
http://www.womanthouartgod.com/theology.php
RASA COMMENTS BELOW
----- Original Message -----
From: "adam smith"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:47 PM
Subject: [womanthouartgod] UFO'S AND CHRIST
> Dear Spiritual Mother Rasa,
> Greetings to you! Thanks for putting my dream on your web page.
> The image comes close but YOU looked much more radiant.
> The light around you was shimmering like the hot air in a desert and
> though you did not move you were animated by the Holy Spirit and your
> large eyes were dark and tender but NOT in darkness! I hope this
> makes sense!
> Anyway, dear Guru Rasa, I would like to tell you of an incident in
> which reality becomes a dream and dreams become reality.
> It was about 8 years ago when I was on holiday in Cyprus and
> concerned many UFO'S. It was about 3.00am and I was just getting
> ready to get some sleep. As is usual, I like to read before going to
> sleep and in this case it was the Bible. I was reading the passage
> where Christ says: 'I am the Way the Truth and the Life'.
*** 8 YEARS OLD BIBLE READING? I HOPE IT WAS LARGE TYPE! WOULD LIKE TO
KNOW YOUR RELIGIOUS UPBRINGING & RELIGION. CATECHISM? HOLY COMMUNION?
WHAT AGE?
I was
> getting very drowsy and was almost in dreamland when I heard a voice
> in my head telling me:
*** MUST HAVE BEEN BORN SPIRITUALLY GIFTED....VERY UNUSUAL. THE ATMAN,
THE SELF OR GOD WITHIN. OR CAN YOU RECALL WHEN HEARING THIS VOICE START?
> 'Go outside now! You will see something truly great tonight that will
> change your life.' I had an incredible urge to go out onto the
> balcony.
> The sky was ablaze with bright stars and the Milky Way streaked
> across it's dome. I knew exactly were to look up at the sky. Almost
> instantly I could see a formation of lights in a circular pattern. In
> between them there was complete darkness like a dark lens that was
> distorting everything in it's way. They moved very slowly for about a
> minute and then stopped for about 4 minutes! During this time the
> white dots of light were making all type of strange and beautiful
> patterns in the sky but finally ended up as a triangular formation.
> They then grew bright and orange coloured. In a blink of an eye they
> shot across the sky in a perfect 'V' formation that stretched from
> one side of the horizon to the next. There must have been at least
> twenty lights. All this time there was complete silence! In fact even
> the croaking frogs stopped (OZ Effect).
*** OZ EFFECT?
> I know that I was not dreaming because I consulted a leading UFO
> authority a few weeks later and he seemed to be convinced that it
> had the classic signs of UFO phenomena. In fact, it was reported in a
> leading ufo magazine in England that reported that the incident was
> recorded by an RAF base in Cyprus. What is so strange about this is
> the psychic component. Who's voice was it!
*** IT WAS THE REAL YOU - GOD WITHIN
Why did it coincide with
> the passage that I was reading from the Bible?
*** THERE IS A CHANCE GOD CREATED THIS PHENOMENA JUST FOR YOU, TO
TOUCH YOU WITH GRACE.
I HAVE HAD TWO SIGHTINGS OF MY GUARDIAN ANGELS - DURING THE AFTERMATH
OF THE LOS ANGELES EARTHQUAKE WAS LYING IN AN ORCHARD, SLEEPING OR
TRYING TO. SAW THREE HUGE GLOBES OF LIGHT 50 FEET OR LESS ABOVE ME. A
FRIEND WAS LYING NEAR ME AND I ASKED HIM IF HE SAW IT AND HE ALSO DID.
OF COURSE NEITHER ONE OF US HAD ANY IDEA WHAT THIS WAS EXCEPT UFO'S OR
STRANGE BEINGS. THEY JUST STAYED THERE, HOVERING ABOVE ME, ALL NIGHT.
HERE IS HOW I FOUND OUT WHAT THEY WERE. MY SPIRITUAL SON (16 YR. OLD
SPIRITUAL GENIUS) DAVID WAS LIVING WITH ME TEMPORARILY (HE HALF
CHINESE, HALF ENGLISH) AND HE SLEPT IN THE LIVING ROOM AND I IN THE
SMALL BEDROOM RIGHT OFF IT, NO DOOR.
THE NEXT MORNING HE TOLD ME,
'I SAW THREE GLOBES OF LIGHT HOVERING OVER YOU DURING THE NIGHT......
THEY ARE YOUR GUARDIAN ANGELS.'
HE WAS THE ONE WHO ALSO DISCERNED THAT THE THREE BETROTHAL RINGS JESUS
GAVE ME JAN. 1978 REPRESENTED THE THEOLOGICAL VIRTUES OF FAITH, HOPE
AND CHARITY. THESE ARE THE VIRTUES THAT RELATE DIRECTLY TO GOD,
THEREFORE ARE CALLED 'THOLOGICAL VIRTUES.'
Strangest of all, for
> a few weeks later, I felt my awareness to be on an higher level. I
> experienced many incidents of deja vou and seemed to know exactly
> what people were going to say even before they spoke. I could even
> give instructions to people to get to places that I had never been to.
*** WHEN A PERSON IS 'TUNED IN' TO INFINITY OR WHEN THEIR
CONSCIOUSNESS IS AT ONE WITH IT, MANY PHENOMENON OCCUR. SOME OF IT IS
NATURAL SPIRITUAL GIFTEDNESS, SOME OF IT INFUSED VIRTUES, GIFTS OF THE
HOLY SPIRIT. (SHAKTI IN YOGA)
*** THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT YOU ARE TRULY GIFTED AND GOD
WANTS TO USE YOU TO BRING FORTH A NEW ERA. ONE HOLY SOUL IS WORTH
1,000 LUKEWARM ONES. A HOLY SOUL CAN DO MIRACLES, LUKEWARM ONES MOSTLY
STAND IN THE WAY OF THE WORK. (LOL)
> This, dear Guru, is the truth.
*** NONE OF IT SURPRIZES ME BECAUSE I HAVE HAD MIRACLES, PHENOMENA
ALSO ALL MY LIFE, SINCE I WAS VERY YOUNG ALSO. DIFFERENT THAN YOURS,
BUT ALSO AMAZING. AND STILL GOING ON ALL THE TIME! WAIT TILL WE GET A
QUORUM! WE ARE GOING TO DRAW MORE AND MORE SOULS LIKE THIS TO THE
FOLD! THEY ARE COMING! LOOK AT JUANA AND CJ! AND THIS VERY NIGHT,
TSTARK BLUEFEATHER WAS BORN AGAIN. THINGS ARE HAPPENING.
I believe there is something truly
> great happening in the world and it's happening everywhere. I believe
> it's connected with the Second Comming of Christ.
*** I BELIEVE THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST IS MATRIARCHY, AND THAT IS
OUR MISSION. JESUS WAS A MATRIARCHAL YOGI. HE WAS TOTALLY
REVOLUTIONARY IN HIS ACCEPTANCE OF WOMEN AND EVEN CHOSE A WOMAN, MARY
MAGDALENE, TO HEAD HIS CHURCH. IT DIDN'T WORK BECAUSE THE MEN BULLIED
HER OUT OF HER POST, BUT IT WILL WORK NOW. NOW MOTHERGOD IS PUSHING
THE MEN ASIDE, AND THE FEMININE DIVINE IS RISING! YOU AND THE OTHERS
HERE AND WHO WILL COME, ARE AN IMPORTANT PART OF REEDUCATING OUR NEW
WORLD!
> Kind wishes and much love, Adam.
*** SAME HERE. ANY DETAILS YOU CAN RECALL ABOUT THE DREAM OF THE
SCREEN AND ANY OTHERS, PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO TELL ME. WE MADE
AMENDMENTS AT ENDS OF DREAMS ON THE SITE, WHEN MORE DATA COMES IN.
RASA
RASA COMMENTS BELOW
----- Original Message -----
From: "adam smith"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:47 PM
Subject: [womanthouartgod] UFO'S AND CHRIST
> Dear Spiritual Mother Rasa,
> Greetings to you! Thanks for putting my dream on your web page.
> The image comes close but YOU looked much more radiant.
> The light around you was shimmering like the hot air in a desert and
> though you did not move you were animated by the Holy Spirit and your
> large eyes were dark and tender but NOT in darkness! I hope this
> makes sense!
> Anyway, dear Guru Rasa, I would like to tell you of an incident in
> which reality becomes a dream and dreams become reality.
> It was about 8 years ago when I was on holiday in Cyprus and
> concerned many UFO'S. It was about 3.00am and I was just getting
> ready to get some sleep. As is usual, I like to read before going to
> sleep and in this case it was the Bible. I was reading the passage
> where Christ says: 'I am the Way the Truth and the Life'.
*** 8 YEARS OLD BIBLE READING? I HOPE IT WAS LARGE TYPE! WOULD LIKE TO
KNOW YOUR RELIGIOUS UPBRINGING & RELIGION. CATECHISM? HOLY COMMUNION?
WHAT AGE?
I was
> getting very drowsy and was almost in dreamland when I heard a voice
> in my head telling me:
*** MUST HAVE BEEN BORN SPIRITUALLY GIFTED....VERY UNUSUAL. THE ATMAN,
THE SELF OR GOD WITHIN. OR CAN YOU RECALL WHEN HEARING THIS VOICE START?
> 'Go outside now! You will see something truly great tonight that will
> change your life.' I had an incredible urge to go out onto the
> balcony.
> The sky was ablaze with bright stars and the Milky Way streaked
> across it's dome. I knew exactly were to look up at the sky. Almost
> instantly I could see a formation of lights in a circular pattern. In
> between them there was complete darkness like a dark lens that was
> distorting everything in it's way. They moved very slowly for about a
> minute and then stopped for about 4 minutes! During this time the
> white dots of light were making all type of strange and beautiful
> patterns in the sky but finally ended up as a triangular formation.
> They then grew bright and orange coloured. In a blink of an eye they
> shot across the sky in a perfect 'V' formation that stretched from
> one side of the horizon to the next. There must have been at least
> twenty lights. All this time there was complete silence! In fact even
> the croaking frogs stopped (OZ Effect).
*** OZ EFFECT?
> I know that I was not dreaming because I consulted a leading UFO
> authority a few weeks later and he seemed to be convinced that it
> had the classic signs of UFO phenomena. In fact, it was reported in a
> leading ufo magazine in England that reported that the incident was
> recorded by an RAF base in Cyprus. What is so strange about this is
> the psychic component. Who's voice was it!
*** IT WAS THE REAL YOU - GOD WITHIN
Why did it coincide with
> the passage that I was reading from the Bible?
*** THERE IS A CHANCE GOD CREATED THIS PHENOMENA JUST FOR YOU, TO
TOUCH YOU WITH GRACE.
I HAVE HAD TWO SIGHTINGS OF MY GUARDIAN ANGELS - DURING THE AFTERMATH
OF THE LOS ANGELES EARTHQUAKE WAS LYING IN AN ORCHARD, SLEEPING OR
TRYING TO. SAW THREE HUGE GLOBES OF LIGHT 50 FEET OR LESS ABOVE ME. A
FRIEND WAS LYING NEAR ME AND I ASKED HIM IF HE SAW IT AND HE ALSO DID.
OF COURSE NEITHER ONE OF US HAD ANY IDEA WHAT THIS WAS EXCEPT UFO'S OR
STRANGE BEINGS. THEY JUST STAYED THERE, HOVERING ABOVE ME, ALL NIGHT.
HERE IS HOW I FOUND OUT WHAT THEY WERE. MY SPIRITUAL SON (16 YR. OLD
SPIRITUAL GENIUS) DAVID WAS LIVING WITH ME TEMPORARILY (HE HALF
CHINESE, HALF ENGLISH) AND HE SLEPT IN THE LIVING ROOM AND I IN THE
SMALL BEDROOM RIGHT OFF IT, NO DOOR.
THE NEXT MORNING HE TOLD ME,
'I SAW THREE GLOBES OF LIGHT HOVERING OVER YOU DURING THE NIGHT......
THEY ARE YOUR GUARDIAN ANGELS.'
HE WAS THE ONE WHO ALSO DISCERNED THAT THE THREE BETROTHAL RINGS JESUS
GAVE ME JAN. 1978 REPRESENTED THE THEOLOGICAL VIRTUES OF FAITH, HOPE
AND CHARITY. THESE ARE THE VIRTUES THAT RELATE DIRECTLY TO GOD,
THEREFORE ARE CALLED 'THOLOGICAL VIRTUES.'
Strangest of all, for
> a few weeks later, I felt my awareness to be on an higher level. I
> experienced many incidents of deja vou and seemed to know exactly
> what people were going to say even before they spoke. I could even
> give instructions to people to get to places that I had never been to.
*** WHEN A PERSON IS 'TUNED IN' TO INFINITY OR WHEN THEIR
CONSCIOUSNESS IS AT ONE WITH IT, MANY PHENOMENON OCCUR. SOME OF IT IS
NATURAL SPIRITUAL GIFTEDNESS, SOME OF IT INFUSED VIRTUES, GIFTS OF THE
HOLY SPIRIT. (SHAKTI IN YOGA)
*** THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT YOU ARE TRULY GIFTED AND GOD
WANTS TO USE YOU TO BRING FORTH A NEW ERA. ONE HOLY SOUL IS WORTH
1,000 LUKEWARM ONES. A HOLY SOUL CAN DO MIRACLES, LUKEWARM ONES MOSTLY
STAND IN THE WAY OF THE WORK. (LOL)
> This, dear Guru, is the truth.
*** NONE OF IT SURPRIZES ME BECAUSE I HAVE HAD MIRACLES, PHENOMENA
ALSO ALL MY LIFE, SINCE I WAS VERY YOUNG ALSO. DIFFERENT THAN YOURS,
BUT ALSO AMAZING. AND STILL GOING ON ALL THE TIME! WAIT TILL WE GET A
QUORUM! WE ARE GOING TO DRAW MORE AND MORE SOULS LIKE THIS TO THE
FOLD! THEY ARE COMING! LOOK AT JUANA AND CJ! AND THIS VERY NIGHT,
TSTARK BLUEFEATHER WAS BORN AGAIN. THINGS ARE HAPPENING.
I believe there is something truly
> great happening in the world and it's happening everywhere. I believe
> it's connected with the Second Comming of Christ.
*** I BELIEVE THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST IS MATRIARCHY, AND THAT IS
OUR MISSION. JESUS WAS A MATRIARCHAL YOGI. HE WAS TOTALLY
REVOLUTIONARY IN HIS ACCEPTANCE OF WOMEN AND EVEN CHOSE A WOMAN, MARY
MAGDALENE, TO HEAD HIS CHURCH. IT DIDN'T WORK BECAUSE THE MEN BULLIED
HER OUT OF HER POST, BUT IT WILL WORK NOW. NOW MOTHERGOD IS PUSHING
THE MEN ASIDE, AND THE FEMININE DIVINE IS RISING! YOU AND THE OTHERS
HERE AND WHO WILL COME, ARE AN IMPORTANT PART OF REEDUCATING OUR NEW
WORLD!
> Kind wishes and much love, Adam.
*** SAME HERE. ANY DETAILS YOU CAN RECALL ABOUT THE DREAM OF THE
SCREEN AND ANY OTHERS, PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO TELL ME. WE MADE
AMENDMENTS AT ENDS OF DREAMS ON THE SITE, WHEN MORE DATA COMES IN.
RASA
JUANA ACHIEVES MYSTICAL UNION WITH GOD AND ENLIGHTENMENT AIDED BY GURURASA!
WOW WHEN I GOT MY FIRST FEMALE DEVOTEE I GOT A GREAT ONE!
THE 'DIVINELY INTIMATE' DREAMS AND VISIONS, GIVEN BY GOD, THROUGH THE
GURU, ARE AMAZING TO BEHOLD. I NEVER KNEW THAT GOD WOULD MANIFEST
THROUGH ME AND APPEAR TO A FEMALE AS A FEMALE AND MAKE LOVE TO HER! I
THINK THIS WILL OPEN AND STRETCH OUR BRAINS THAT THERE IS NO GENDER IN
LOVE. LOVE IS LOVE, POWER IS POWER, WHATEVER GENDER IS PARTAKING. IN
THE ULTIMATE SCHEME OF THINGS, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? WE ARE ALL ONE.
ONE HEART, ONE SOUL, ONE MIND, ONE INFINITY, ONE LOVE. THE DIFFERENCE
IN GENDERS - MALE TO FEMALE OR WHATEVER ONE PREFERS - IS A PHYSICAL
REALITY. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE LIMITED TO THE PHYSICAL, DOES IT? IN
OTHER WORDS, WITH HETEROSEXUALS, THERE IS PREFERENCE FOR OPPOSITE SEX.
BUT THIS OPPOSITE SEX IS ONLY PHYSICAL CHEMICAL ATTRACTION. OF COURSE
THERE IS ALSO DIFFERENCE IN BRAIN AND PERSONALITY IN MALE AND FEMALE.
BUT STRIPPED OF THE BODY WHAT DO YOU HAVE? YOU HAVE SOUL TO SOUL! SOUL
HAS NO 'CHEMISTRY' IN THE KIND THAT MAKES MALE HEAT UP FOR FEMALE OR
FEMALE LUST FOR MALE. THE SOUL HAS NO PHYSICAL CHEMICAL ATTRIBUTES,
AND THEREFORE, IS NOT LIMITED BY THEM. THIS IS WHAT JUANA IS POINTING
OUT, THAT THE GURU THIS TIME APPEARED AS A FEMALE AND MADE LOVE TO
HER! THIS IS DIVINE POWER UNDER THE GUISE AND METAPHOR (ALTHOUGH IT IS
METAPHOR IT IS AS REAL, OR MORE REAL THAN EARTHLY EXPERIENCE!)
OF JUANA'S EXPERIENCE OF GURURASA. (THIS SURPRIZES RASA AS IT IS
UNCONSCIOUS) IT PROVES THAT THERE IS NO GENDER LIMITATION BETWEEN GURU
AND DEVOTEE! GURU CAN MANIFEST AS MALE TO THE FEMALE DEVOTEE AND
TRANSMIT THE ECSTATIC KISS OF INITIATION! THEN GURU CAN BECOME FEMALE
TO THE FEMALE DEVOTEE AND DO ECSTATIC LOVE! THIS IS GOD - NOT THE FLESH.
RASA WONDERS WHY NO MALE WAS ABLE TO RECEIVE SUCH AN EXPERIENCE
(ALTHOUGH IT HAPPENED ONCE LONG AGO) WHY WAS A FEMALE ABLE TO RECEIVE
SUCH A GRACE BUT NO MALE?
RASA'S CONCLUSION IS THE FOLLOWING: NO MALE HAD THE SPIRITUAL
STRENGTH, SO FAR, TO RECEIVE IT. (HOLD ON, MALES, YOU HAVE TIME YET!
IT CAN HAPPEN!) THE MALE DEVOTEES HAVE BEEN TOO ABSORBED IN FLESH, NOT
ABLE TO LET GO OF ALL OF IT, AND RECEIVED RASA , BUT NOT AS LOVER! AND
SO RASA APPEARED AS MOTHER TO MOST OF THEM, BUT NOT AS LOVER. IS LOVER
A HIGHER LEVEL? INDEED. IN THE LOVER SCENARIO RASA AND THE DEVOTEE
BECOME ONE, WITH NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM. IN THE MOTHER
RELATIONSHIP RASA IS BIGGER, STRONGER, AND THE DEVOTEE IS SMALLER,
WEAKER. AND SO IT HAS BEEN A FEMALE WHO WAS ABLE TO HOLD THE POWER
TRANSMITTED BY RASA ON THE HIGHEST LEVEL! NO MALE SO FAR WAS STRONG
ENOUGH, PURE ENOUGH AND MIGHTY ENOUGH TO BECOME 'AT ONE' WITH RASA!
BUT A FEMALE WAS!
CONGRATULATIONS TO THE FEMALE WHO COULD RESPOND AND RISE UP INTO
HEAVEN TO WHERE RASA IS - JUANA BRAZILLAH!
RASA AND THIS DEVOTEE ARE ONE, IT IS MYSTICAL MARRIAGE (SEE THE DREAM
WHERE RASA PORTENDS IMMINENT MYSTICAL MARRIAGE FOR JUANA!.......):
http://www.womanthouartgod.com/dreamjuanaasbride.php
(This dream happened Dec. 9, '05 and her Mystical Marriage occurred
Dec. 13, '05)
JUANA IS NOW TOTALLY ONE WITH GOD THROUGH HER GURU! THE GURU, THE
LINK HAS WORKED!
HERE IS THE PROGRESSION AS IT HAPPENED:
DEC. 6, '05 - JUANA MEETS RASA
DEC. 7, '05 - JUANA INSTALLS RASA INTO HER HEART AS GURU
DEC. 8, '05 - RASA INITIATES JUANA WITH THE SACRED KISS, (FIRST
BECOMING A MAN) AND CALLS HER TO BATTLE FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS
DEC. 9, '05 - RASA DREAMS OF JUANA AS CLOSE TO MYSTICAL MARRIAGE WITH
GOD (MEANS BECOMING ONE WITH GOD)
DEC. 13, '05 - JUANA ACHIEVES MYSTICAL MARRIAGE WITH GOD! (WHICH
ALSO HAS AS ITS BY PRODUCT, ENLIGHTENMENT!) GOD APPEARS TO HER THIS
TIME AS THE FEMALE RASA, BRINGING THE POWER OF LOVE IN INTIMATE UNION.
COMMENTS
WHAT IS EXTREMELY INTERESTING HERE IS THE MANNER AND METHOD IN WHICH
JUANA RECEIVES HER GOD. AS GURURASA DELIVERS GOD TO HER AND HER TO
GOD, IT IS DONE UNDER THE POWER OF LOVE! IT IS THE WAY OF RASA - THE
WAY SHE HERSELF SOUGHT GOD AND ALSO RECEIVED, OF, IN, BY AND THROUGH
LOVE, THE LOVE OF SELF SACRIFICE, TRUE LOVE.
MANY YOGIS SPEAK OF 'ENLIGHTENMENT' AND SOME PEOPLE THINK THIS HAPPENS
OUTSIDE OF THE LOVE PARADIGM. NOT SO FOR RASA AND HER DEVOTEES.
INTENSE, PERSONAL INTIMATE EXPERIENCES OF LOVE ARE ALWAYS THE CASE,
AND ENLIGHTENMENT IS A RESULT OF LOVE, NOT A GOAL IN ITSELF OUTSIDE OF IT.
Discussions on this group and:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TastingSugar/
----- Original Message -----
From: "brazillah"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:34 PM
Subject: [womanthouartgod] dreams etc
> >
> Guru mother rasa,
>
>
> what wonderful explanations of my dreams. Can it be that we are such
> close comrades after such short period? I have made love to no other
> woman in my life. Our union in dream was as real as it can get. It
> will be hard to go back to the penis.
> Together we can take stiletto boot heel to the reign of men.
I will like to take
> hand with you. Lets move like wind to be close to dream.
>
> I have moved as close to godhood as anyone in history. Together we
> can be twin christ rasa. Let anyone who says it shouldnt happen speak
> up now.
>
> I would like to see everyone on list give pledge to serve guru rasa
> with every ounce of being. Pledge now serve her forever, and follow
> her doctrine.
>
> Is there any other way to reach heaven. i dont think.
>
> Juana
THE 'DIVINELY INTIMATE' DREAMS AND VISIONS, GIVEN BY GOD, THROUGH THE
GURU, ARE AMAZING TO BEHOLD. I NEVER KNEW THAT GOD WOULD MANIFEST
THROUGH ME AND APPEAR TO A FEMALE AS A FEMALE AND MAKE LOVE TO HER! I
THINK THIS WILL OPEN AND STRETCH OUR BRAINS THAT THERE IS NO GENDER IN
LOVE. LOVE IS LOVE, POWER IS POWER, WHATEVER GENDER IS PARTAKING. IN
THE ULTIMATE SCHEME OF THINGS, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? WE ARE ALL ONE.
ONE HEART, ONE SOUL, ONE MIND, ONE INFINITY, ONE LOVE. THE DIFFERENCE
IN GENDERS - MALE TO FEMALE OR WHATEVER ONE PREFERS - IS A PHYSICAL
REALITY. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE LIMITED TO THE PHYSICAL, DOES IT? IN
OTHER WORDS, WITH HETEROSEXUALS, THERE IS PREFERENCE FOR OPPOSITE SEX.
BUT THIS OPPOSITE SEX IS ONLY PHYSICAL CHEMICAL ATTRACTION. OF COURSE
THERE IS ALSO DIFFERENCE IN BRAIN AND PERSONALITY IN MALE AND FEMALE.
BUT STRIPPED OF THE BODY WHAT DO YOU HAVE? YOU HAVE SOUL TO SOUL! SOUL
HAS NO 'CHEMISTRY' IN THE KIND THAT MAKES MALE HEAT UP FOR FEMALE OR
FEMALE LUST FOR MALE. THE SOUL HAS NO PHYSICAL CHEMICAL ATTRIBUTES,
AND THEREFORE, IS NOT LIMITED BY THEM. THIS IS WHAT JUANA IS POINTING
OUT, THAT THE GURU THIS TIME APPEARED AS A FEMALE AND MADE LOVE TO
HER! THIS IS DIVINE POWER UNDER THE GUISE AND METAPHOR (ALTHOUGH IT IS
METAPHOR IT IS AS REAL, OR MORE REAL THAN EARTHLY EXPERIENCE!)
OF JUANA'S EXPERIENCE OF GURURASA. (THIS SURPRIZES RASA AS IT IS
UNCONSCIOUS) IT PROVES THAT THERE IS NO GENDER LIMITATION BETWEEN GURU
AND DEVOTEE! GURU CAN MANIFEST AS MALE TO THE FEMALE DEVOTEE AND
TRANSMIT THE ECSTATIC KISS OF INITIATION! THEN GURU CAN BECOME FEMALE
TO THE FEMALE DEVOTEE AND DO ECSTATIC LOVE! THIS IS GOD - NOT THE FLESH.
RASA WONDERS WHY NO MALE WAS ABLE TO RECEIVE SUCH AN EXPERIENCE
(ALTHOUGH IT HAPPENED ONCE LONG AGO) WHY WAS A FEMALE ABLE TO RECEIVE
SUCH A GRACE BUT NO MALE?
RASA'S CONCLUSION IS THE FOLLOWING: NO MALE HAD THE SPIRITUAL
STRENGTH, SO FAR, TO RECEIVE IT. (HOLD ON, MALES, YOU HAVE TIME YET!
IT CAN HAPPEN!) THE MALE DEVOTEES HAVE BEEN TOO ABSORBED IN FLESH, NOT
ABLE TO LET GO OF ALL OF IT, AND RECEIVED RASA , BUT NOT AS LOVER! AND
SO RASA APPEARED AS MOTHER TO MOST OF THEM, BUT NOT AS LOVER. IS LOVER
A HIGHER LEVEL? INDEED. IN THE LOVER SCENARIO RASA AND THE DEVOTEE
BECOME ONE, WITH NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM. IN THE MOTHER
RELATIONSHIP RASA IS BIGGER, STRONGER, AND THE DEVOTEE IS SMALLER,
WEAKER. AND SO IT HAS BEEN A FEMALE WHO WAS ABLE TO HOLD THE POWER
TRANSMITTED BY RASA ON THE HIGHEST LEVEL! NO MALE SO FAR WAS STRONG
ENOUGH, PURE ENOUGH AND MIGHTY ENOUGH TO BECOME 'AT ONE' WITH RASA!
BUT A FEMALE WAS!
CONGRATULATIONS TO THE FEMALE WHO COULD RESPOND AND RISE UP INTO
HEAVEN TO WHERE RASA IS - JUANA BRAZILLAH!
RASA AND THIS DEVOTEE ARE ONE, IT IS MYSTICAL MARRIAGE (SEE THE DREAM
WHERE RASA PORTENDS IMMINENT MYSTICAL MARRIAGE FOR JUANA!.......):
http://www.womanthouartgod.com/dreamjuanaasbride.php
(This dream happened Dec. 9, '05 and her Mystical Marriage occurred
Dec. 13, '05)
JUANA IS NOW TOTALLY ONE WITH GOD THROUGH HER GURU! THE GURU, THE
LINK HAS WORKED!
HERE IS THE PROGRESSION AS IT HAPPENED:
DEC. 6, '05 - JUANA MEETS RASA
DEC. 7, '05 - JUANA INSTALLS RASA INTO HER HEART AS GURU
DEC. 8, '05 - RASA INITIATES JUANA WITH THE SACRED KISS, (FIRST
BECOMING A MAN) AND CALLS HER TO BATTLE FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS
DEC. 9, '05 - RASA DREAMS OF JUANA AS CLOSE TO MYSTICAL MARRIAGE WITH
GOD (MEANS BECOMING ONE WITH GOD)
DEC. 13, '05 - JUANA ACHIEVES MYSTICAL MARRIAGE WITH GOD! (WHICH
ALSO HAS AS ITS BY PRODUCT, ENLIGHTENMENT!) GOD APPEARS TO HER THIS
TIME AS THE FEMALE RASA, BRINGING THE POWER OF LOVE IN INTIMATE UNION.
COMMENTS
WHAT IS EXTREMELY INTERESTING HERE IS THE MANNER AND METHOD IN WHICH
JUANA RECEIVES HER GOD. AS GURURASA DELIVERS GOD TO HER AND HER TO
GOD, IT IS DONE UNDER THE POWER OF LOVE! IT IS THE WAY OF RASA - THE
WAY SHE HERSELF SOUGHT GOD AND ALSO RECEIVED, OF, IN, BY AND THROUGH
LOVE, THE LOVE OF SELF SACRIFICE, TRUE LOVE.
MANY YOGIS SPEAK OF 'ENLIGHTENMENT' AND SOME PEOPLE THINK THIS HAPPENS
OUTSIDE OF THE LOVE PARADIGM. NOT SO FOR RASA AND HER DEVOTEES.
INTENSE, PERSONAL INTIMATE EXPERIENCES OF LOVE ARE ALWAYS THE CASE,
AND ENLIGHTENMENT IS A RESULT OF LOVE, NOT A GOAL IN ITSELF OUTSIDE OF IT.
Discussions on this group and:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TastingSugar/
----- Original Message -----
From: "brazillah"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:34 PM
Subject: [womanthouartgod] dreams etc
> >
> Guru mother rasa,
>
>
> what wonderful explanations of my dreams. Can it be that we are such
> close comrades after such short period? I have made love to no other
> woman in my life. Our union in dream was as real as it can get. It
> will be hard to go back to the penis.
> Together we can take stiletto boot heel to the reign of men.
I will like to take
> hand with you. Lets move like wind to be close to dream.
>
> I have moved as close to godhood as anyone in history. Together we
> can be twin christ rasa. Let anyone who says it shouldnt happen speak
> up now.
>
> I would like to see everyone on list give pledge to serve guru rasa
> with every ounce of being. Pledge now serve her forever, and follow
> her doctrine.
>
> Is there any other way to reach heaven. i dont think.
>
> Juana
ARE WE JESUS? RASA ANSWERS A CONFUSED LADY.
I AM WORKING ON ADDRESSING THIS NOW, MELODY. SISTER JUANA HAS GONE
THROUGH THE MYSTICAL MARRIAGE WITH GOD, THROUGH HER GURU'S HELP, YOURS
TRULY.
ABOUT BEING JESUS OR CHRIST? WE ARE ALL CALLED TO HOLINESS, TO BE
'ANOTHER CHRIST.' WHEN WE BECOME HOLY AND ONE WITH GOD, THERE IS NO
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR LORD AND US. WE ARE HIM, HE IS US. HE IS GOD,
WE ARE GOD. HE TEACHES THIS (IT IS NOT FULLY APPRECIATED IN
CHRISTIANITY, NOT BY ALL) AND YOGA AND BUDDHISM TEACH THIS. WHEN YOU
ASCEND INTO GOD, YOU AND GOD ARE ONE AND THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE. SO
PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THIS AS BLASPHEMY OR SOMETHING NEGATIVE.
TO THOSE WHO THINK THAT BEING LOYAL TO ME AND HAVING ME AS GURU OR
INSTALLING ME INTO THEIR HEART IN SOME WAY NEGATES JESUS OR IS
UNFAITHFUL TO JESUS, INDEED NO. I BECAME HIM, LIKE I SAID. WHEN YOU
PLEDGE TO ME, YOU ARE ALSO PLEDGING TO HIM. I AM A LIVING EMBODIMENT
OR INSTRUMENT OF GOD. THAT IS WHY I AM A GURU. IF THIS IS TOO
DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND, THEN I AM SORRY. IT IS HOW IT IS.
WHAT IS MY DOCTRINE? YOU WILL HAVE TO READ THE ARTICLES ON THE SITE.
IT CANNOT BE STATED IN A SHORT E MAIL. SOME STUDYING IS IN ORDER.
AFTER ALL, IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE GOSPEL, YOU HAVE TO READ IT OR HEAR
IT, DO YOU NOT? IT IS NOT GIVEN YOU IN ONE SENTENCE.
RASA
----- Original Message -----
From: "melodyc_000"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:48 PM
Subject: [womanthouartgod] Re: dreams etc
>
>
> I'm sorry but dont think I understand the idea of this group.
> Can someone please explain it to me. Is this for real, that people
> are comparing themself with Jesus?
>
> Why does anyone need to make a pledge to your guru , and what exactly
> is the doctrine? I'm sorry but at first glance this seems kind of
> insane. But maybe thats the point. Maybe its a joke, and I'm just not
> getting it. Enlighten me please.
>
> confused,
>
> Melody
>
>
> --- In womanthouartgod@yahoogroups.com, "brazillah"
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Guru mother rasa,
>>
>>
>> what wonderful explinations of my dreams. Can it be that we are
> such
>> close comrades after such short period? I have made love to no
> other
>> woman in my life. Our union in dream was as real as it can get. It
>> will be hard to go back to the penis.
>> Together we can take stiletto boot heel to the reign of men.
>> We shall take up the sword and torch, and burn and slice evil
>> womanizers. Ah its only a fantasy maybe...but I will like to take
>> hand with you. Lets move like wind to be close to dream. Only gay
> men
>> and servent males shall be allowed freedom in our new world.
>>
>> I have moved as close to godhood as anyone in history. Together we
>> can be twin christ rasa. Let anyone who says it shouldnt happen
> speak
>> up now.
>>
>> I would like to see everyone on list give pledge to serve guru rasa
>> with every ounce of being. Pledge now serve her forever, and follow
>> her doctrine.
>>
>> Is there any other way to reach heaven. i dont think.
>>
>> Juana
THROUGH THE MYSTICAL MARRIAGE WITH GOD, THROUGH HER GURU'S HELP, YOURS
TRULY.
ABOUT BEING JESUS OR CHRIST? WE ARE ALL CALLED TO HOLINESS, TO BE
'ANOTHER CHRIST.' WHEN WE BECOME HOLY AND ONE WITH GOD, THERE IS NO
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR LORD AND US. WE ARE HIM, HE IS US. HE IS GOD,
WE ARE GOD. HE TEACHES THIS (IT IS NOT FULLY APPRECIATED IN
CHRISTIANITY, NOT BY ALL) AND YOGA AND BUDDHISM TEACH THIS. WHEN YOU
ASCEND INTO GOD, YOU AND GOD ARE ONE AND THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE. SO
PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THIS AS BLASPHEMY OR SOMETHING NEGATIVE.
TO THOSE WHO THINK THAT BEING LOYAL TO ME AND HAVING ME AS GURU OR
INSTALLING ME INTO THEIR HEART IN SOME WAY NEGATES JESUS OR IS
UNFAITHFUL TO JESUS, INDEED NO. I BECAME HIM, LIKE I SAID. WHEN YOU
PLEDGE TO ME, YOU ARE ALSO PLEDGING TO HIM. I AM A LIVING EMBODIMENT
OR INSTRUMENT OF GOD. THAT IS WHY I AM A GURU. IF THIS IS TOO
DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND, THEN I AM SORRY. IT IS HOW IT IS.
WHAT IS MY DOCTRINE? YOU WILL HAVE TO READ THE ARTICLES ON THE SITE.
IT CANNOT BE STATED IN A SHORT E MAIL. SOME STUDYING IS IN ORDER.
AFTER ALL, IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE GOSPEL, YOU HAVE TO READ IT OR HEAR
IT, DO YOU NOT? IT IS NOT GIVEN YOU IN ONE SENTENCE.
RASA
----- Original Message -----
From: "melodyc_000"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:48 PM
Subject: [womanthouartgod] Re: dreams etc
>
>
> I'm sorry but dont think I understand the idea of this group.
> Can someone please explain it to me. Is this for real, that people
> are comparing themself with Jesus?
>
> Why does anyone need to make a pledge to your guru , and what exactly
> is the doctrine? I'm sorry but at first glance this seems kind of
> insane. But maybe thats the point. Maybe its a joke, and I'm just not
> getting it. Enlighten me please.
>
> confused,
>
> Melody
>
>
> --- In womanthouartgod@yahoogroups.com, "brazillah"
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Guru mother rasa,
>>
>>
>> what wonderful explinations of my dreams. Can it be that we are
> such
>> close comrades after such short period? I have made love to no
> other
>> woman in my life. Our union in dream was as real as it can get. It
>> will be hard to go back to the penis.
>> Together we can take stiletto boot heel to the reign of men.
>> We shall take up the sword and torch, and burn and slice evil
>> womanizers. Ah its only a fantasy maybe...but I will like to take
>> hand with you. Lets move like wind to be close to dream. Only gay
> men
>> and servent males shall be allowed freedom in our new world.
>>
>> I have moved as close to godhood as anyone in history. Together we
>> can be twin christ rasa. Let anyone who says it shouldnt happen
> speak
>> up now.
>>
>> I would like to see everyone on list give pledge to serve guru rasa
>> with every ounce of being. Pledge now serve her forever, and follow
>> her doctrine.
>>
>> Is there any other way to reach heaven. i dont think.
>>
>> Juana
MAN TRANSFORMED IN 'GARDEN' OF HEAVEN
He saw his GuruRasa in dreams from the age of three
http://www.womanthouartgod.com/rasaguru.php
raleigh's dream
Dear Guru Rass,
>
> I send my prayers of gratitude and praise to you.
>
> I share a recurrant dream, I have had since I was
> three years old. I try to change the dream, but it ends up
> the same. This dream would come once or twice a year.
> Now, since I found this site and officially
> installed you into my heart, the dream comes at least twice a week.
>
> Here is the dream:
>
> It is different than my other dreams, in that the colors are very
> bright and the sounds are clearer than real sounds, if that makes sense.
*** YOUR INNER SENSES ARE OPEN. WHEN THE INNER SENSES ARE OPEN IT IS
A PRELUDE TO WHAT HAPPENS TO US AFTER WE DIE. AS IT SAYS WE ASCEND
INTO HEAVEN 'BODY AND SOUL.' THE BODY PART IS THE SENSES THAT FEEL AS
IF YOU HAD A BODY.
> I smell plants all around, as I am a child in a garden. I am one with
> the animals, birds, and insects, as we communicate.
*** YOU ARE IN A STATE OF PURITY, AS A CHILD WOULD BE. WE ARE ALL
CHILDREN, AND ONCE, WE WERE (OR SHOULD HAVE BEEN) HAPPY. AT THIS TIME
OUR FEELINGS ARE STRONGER, OUR HEARTS ARE PURE, AND THE 'UNCONSCIOUS'
IS TOTALLY OPEN. WE ARE VULNERABLE AND SENSITIVE. THIS IS THE CHILD
IN YOU - THE SAME TODAY AS WHEN YOU WERE THREE YEARS OLD.
> The trolls always come in the dream. I try to fight them and there are
> too many of them.
*** THESE ARE THE NEGATIVES OF LIFE, WHATEVER THEY MIGHT BE. THE
THINGS OF THE WORLD, THE FLESH AND (WORLD AND FLESH NOT EVIL IN
THEMSELVES, BUT WHEN THEY ARE SEPARATED FROM GOD, THEY ARE) THE DEVIL.
Then I see you walk in ( I did not know it was you
> Guru Rasa Von Werder, until I happened on your photo on this site!
*** ANY PHOTO IN PARTICULAR?
APPARANTLY, WE WERE IN COMMUNICATION ALL THIS TIME IN THE UNCONSCIOUS
REALM.
> You were the person I have seen in my dreams since childhood.
> Your relatively larger presence seems to make the trolls run away.
*** THE PRESENCE OF GOD IS AN EXORCISM IN ITSELF, WITHOUT WORDS
BEING SPOKEN. 'LARGE' IN SPIRITUAL TERMS - AS IN LARGE OR TALL PERSON
- MEANS THE GRACE IS GREAT, A LOT OF GRACE WITHIN THE PERSON. THIS
SCARES OFF THE EVIL.
> You are wearing a white dress and you hold me.
> I undergo a transformation and I too, become an adult woman,
*** THE WHITE DRESS IS PURITY, (PURE IN HEART AND PERHAPS CELIBACY
ALSO.) HOLDING YOU IS EMPOWERING YOU, ACCEPTING YOU INTO THE POWER OF GOD.
THE TRANSFORMATION IS THIS: THE GURU IS GOD, A REPRESENTATIVE, SYMBOL
AND THE POWER OF GOD. THIS DREAM FROM THE BEGINNING ANTICIPATED YOUR
MEETING ME. WHEN YOU MET ME, YOU WOULD BECOME ONE WITH GOD IN UNION.
AND SO, YOU BECOME ONE WITH GOD THROUGH YOUR GURU. YOU BECOME THE
GURU - YOU BECOME GOD.
AS FAR AS BEING FEMALE, THIS IS A SPIRITUAL METAPHOR. SOULS WHO
BECOME ONE WITH GOD ARE SEEN AS FEMALE BECAUSE GOD IS THE AGGRESSOR
(IN THIS CASE IT IS A FEMALE GOD, BUT THAT IS OK) AND THE RECEIVER IS
FEMALE BECAUSE FEMALE TRADITIONALLY RECEIVES (IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH
MALE.) OF COURSE, GOD HAS NO GENDER. THESE ARE METAPHORS. (IN MY
CASE, WHEN GOD HAS APPEARED TO ME IT HAS BEEN A MALE, AND I A FEMALE.)
WHEN I HAVE SEEN SOULS ASCENDING INTO HEAVEN FROM PURGATORY, THEY
ALMOST ALWAYS HAVE SOMETHING ON THEM THAT LOOKS FEMININE. NOT ALWAYS,
BUT 90% OF THE TIME - TO INDICATE TO ME THEY HAVE BEEN TAKEN OVER BY
GOD AND NOW ARE ONE WITH GOD AND ARE FREE. (CHRISTIANS CALL US - MALE
AND FEMALE, THE CHURCH - THE BRIDE OF CHRIST.)
AS A CHILD YOU HAVE HUMBLED YOURSELF TO GOD THROUGH YOUR GURU, AND
THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE HERE. YOU, IN YOUR PURE AND INNOCENT SELF,
SURRENDERED AND BECAME GOD. AND NOW, YOU CAN NO LONGER BE UPSET OR
PUT UPON BY THE WORLD, THE FLESH AND THE DEVIL. THEY CANNOT ASSAIL
YOU ANY MORE, IN THE STATE YOU ARE IN. YOU ARE INVINCIBLE, YOU ARE
FREE, LIKE GOD. CAN TROLLS TOUCH GOD? CAN DEMONS TOUCH GOD? CAN THE
WORLD AND FELSH TOUCH GOD? NO, AND SO, YOU ARE FREE - IN THE PLACE OF
NONDUALITY. JESUS SAID,
'FEAR NOT, I HAVE CONQUERED THE WORLD.'
AND SINCE THIS TRANSFORMATION, SO HAVE YOU.
free
> to walk in the garden,
*** THIS IS THE GARDEN OF EDEN, THE ORIGINAL PURITY OF MANKIND
BEFORE THE FALL!
without being bothered by the trolls.
>
> Guru Rasa; as you can see, I have been reluctant to post this dream, as
> it is very unusual.
>
> As for my personal life. YOu were correct! As soon as I made a
> donation to your church and installed you into my heart, I received
> new sources of unexpected income, a wonderful Ukranian
*** HOW UNCANNY! OUR FIRST FEMALE DEVOTEE, JUANA, IS FROM THE
UKRAINE! SHE MENTIONED YOU TODAY!
woman who had
> entered my life has been developing a close relationship with me, that
> is marked by honesty and mutual support. I try to follow everything
> you say in your advice to men and it brings wonderful results, to
> understate the issue.
>
> I send you my prayers for peace between women and men and that I
> follow my Goddess' will in all matters, as we move each day towards
> the new Matriarchal State of Peace, Love, and Spiritual Prosperity.
>
> With gratitude, respect, and service,
> Your devotee forever,
>
> Raleigh
http://www.womanthouartgod.com/rasaguru.php
raleigh's dream
Dear Guru Rass,
>
> I send my prayers of gratitude and praise to you.
>
> I share a recurrant dream, I have had since I was
> three years old. I try to change the dream, but it ends up
> the same. This dream would come once or twice a year.
> Now, since I found this site and officially
> installed you into my heart, the dream comes at least twice a week.
>
> Here is the dream:
>
> It is different than my other dreams, in that the colors are very
> bright and the sounds are clearer than real sounds, if that makes sense.
*** YOUR INNER SENSES ARE OPEN. WHEN THE INNER SENSES ARE OPEN IT IS
A PRELUDE TO WHAT HAPPENS TO US AFTER WE DIE. AS IT SAYS WE ASCEND
INTO HEAVEN 'BODY AND SOUL.' THE BODY PART IS THE SENSES THAT FEEL AS
IF YOU HAD A BODY.
> I smell plants all around, as I am a child in a garden. I am one with
> the animals, birds, and insects, as we communicate.
*** YOU ARE IN A STATE OF PURITY, AS A CHILD WOULD BE. WE ARE ALL
CHILDREN, AND ONCE, WE WERE (OR SHOULD HAVE BEEN) HAPPY. AT THIS TIME
OUR FEELINGS ARE STRONGER, OUR HEARTS ARE PURE, AND THE 'UNCONSCIOUS'
IS TOTALLY OPEN. WE ARE VULNERABLE AND SENSITIVE. THIS IS THE CHILD
IN YOU - THE SAME TODAY AS WHEN YOU WERE THREE YEARS OLD.
> The trolls always come in the dream. I try to fight them and there are
> too many of them.
*** THESE ARE THE NEGATIVES OF LIFE, WHATEVER THEY MIGHT BE. THE
THINGS OF THE WORLD, THE FLESH AND (WORLD AND FLESH NOT EVIL IN
THEMSELVES, BUT WHEN THEY ARE SEPARATED FROM GOD, THEY ARE) THE DEVIL.
Then I see you walk in ( I did not know it was you
> Guru Rasa Von Werder, until I happened on your photo on this site!
*** ANY PHOTO IN PARTICULAR?
APPARANTLY, WE WERE IN COMMUNICATION ALL THIS TIME IN THE UNCONSCIOUS
REALM.
> You were the person I have seen in my dreams since childhood.
> Your relatively larger presence seems to make the trolls run away.
*** THE PRESENCE OF GOD IS AN EXORCISM IN ITSELF, WITHOUT WORDS
BEING SPOKEN. 'LARGE' IN SPIRITUAL TERMS - AS IN LARGE OR TALL PERSON
- MEANS THE GRACE IS GREAT, A LOT OF GRACE WITHIN THE PERSON. THIS
SCARES OFF THE EVIL.
> You are wearing a white dress and you hold me.
> I undergo a transformation and I too, become an adult woman,
*** THE WHITE DRESS IS PURITY, (PURE IN HEART AND PERHAPS CELIBACY
ALSO.) HOLDING YOU IS EMPOWERING YOU, ACCEPTING YOU INTO THE POWER OF GOD.
THE TRANSFORMATION IS THIS: THE GURU IS GOD, A REPRESENTATIVE, SYMBOL
AND THE POWER OF GOD. THIS DREAM FROM THE BEGINNING ANTICIPATED YOUR
MEETING ME. WHEN YOU MET ME, YOU WOULD BECOME ONE WITH GOD IN UNION.
AND SO, YOU BECOME ONE WITH GOD THROUGH YOUR GURU. YOU BECOME THE
GURU - YOU BECOME GOD.
AS FAR AS BEING FEMALE, THIS IS A SPIRITUAL METAPHOR. SOULS WHO
BECOME ONE WITH GOD ARE SEEN AS FEMALE BECAUSE GOD IS THE AGGRESSOR
(IN THIS CASE IT IS A FEMALE GOD, BUT THAT IS OK) AND THE RECEIVER IS
FEMALE BECAUSE FEMALE TRADITIONALLY RECEIVES (IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH
MALE.) OF COURSE, GOD HAS NO GENDER. THESE ARE METAPHORS. (IN MY
CASE, WHEN GOD HAS APPEARED TO ME IT HAS BEEN A MALE, AND I A FEMALE.)
WHEN I HAVE SEEN SOULS ASCENDING INTO HEAVEN FROM PURGATORY, THEY
ALMOST ALWAYS HAVE SOMETHING ON THEM THAT LOOKS FEMININE. NOT ALWAYS,
BUT 90% OF THE TIME - TO INDICATE TO ME THEY HAVE BEEN TAKEN OVER BY
GOD AND NOW ARE ONE WITH GOD AND ARE FREE. (CHRISTIANS CALL US - MALE
AND FEMALE, THE CHURCH - THE BRIDE OF CHRIST.)
AS A CHILD YOU HAVE HUMBLED YOURSELF TO GOD THROUGH YOUR GURU, AND
THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE HERE. YOU, IN YOUR PURE AND INNOCENT SELF,
SURRENDERED AND BECAME GOD. AND NOW, YOU CAN NO LONGER BE UPSET OR
PUT UPON BY THE WORLD, THE FLESH AND THE DEVIL. THEY CANNOT ASSAIL
YOU ANY MORE, IN THE STATE YOU ARE IN. YOU ARE INVINCIBLE, YOU ARE
FREE, LIKE GOD. CAN TROLLS TOUCH GOD? CAN DEMONS TOUCH GOD? CAN THE
WORLD AND FELSH TOUCH GOD? NO, AND SO, YOU ARE FREE - IN THE PLACE OF
NONDUALITY. JESUS SAID,
'FEAR NOT, I HAVE CONQUERED THE WORLD.'
AND SINCE THIS TRANSFORMATION, SO HAVE YOU.
free
> to walk in the garden,
*** THIS IS THE GARDEN OF EDEN, THE ORIGINAL PURITY OF MANKIND
BEFORE THE FALL!
without being bothered by the trolls.
>
> Guru Rasa; as you can see, I have been reluctant to post this dream, as
> it is very unusual.
>
> As for my personal life. YOu were correct! As soon as I made a
> donation to your church and installed you into my heart, I received
> new sources of unexpected income, a wonderful Ukranian
*** HOW UNCANNY! OUR FIRST FEMALE DEVOTEE, JUANA, IS FROM THE
UKRAINE! SHE MENTIONED YOU TODAY!
woman who had
> entered my life has been developing a close relationship with me, that
> is marked by honesty and mutual support. I try to follow everything
> you say in your advice to men and it brings wonderful results, to
> understate the issue.
>
> I send you my prayers for peace between women and men and that I
> follow my Goddess' will in all matters, as we move each day towards
> the new Matriarchal State of Peace, Love, and Spiritual Prosperity.
>
> With gratitude, respect, and service,
> Your devotee forever,
>
> Raleigh
SPIRITUAL BIOGRAPHY OR RASA OF THE MYSTICAL HEART (Rasa Von Werder)
FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE UNITIVE STATE (Unitive State means state of
Sainthood or where Oneness begins)
http://www.womanthouartgod.com/beatific.php
Installment I
Jan. 11, 1978:
Betrothal to Our Lord Jesus Christ. Rings of Faith, Hope and Charity
are given to Rasa by Jesus himself. (Infused Theological Virtues).
On this night, it was stupendous. It happened in a hotel in Chicago.
Rasa had a dream and knew that this dream portended great heartbreak
and pain from a man she was enamored of. She looked at Jesus photo on
her wall and said to him,
'Promise me that I will not die without paying for my sins.'
The room filled with blue light and everything became supernatural.
Rasa heard Our Lord say,
'I PROMISE YOU THAT YOU WILL DIE IN MY ARMS.'
Rasa cried tears of joy and pain. She then said to Our Lord,
'As proof of this, will you give me a ring?'
She held out her left hand and suddenly from Heaven came a Blue Light
in a stream, striking the pinky of her hand. Rasa said,
'That's not the right finger!'
Then a second light descended from Heaven (these lights exploded like
fireworks when they hit her hand) and struck her index finger,
exploding there. Rasa said,
'That is also not the right finger!'
Suddenly the third light came from Heaven and struck the finger next
to the pinky - the one signifiying betrothal or marriage (union) and
exploded. Rasa cried again with joy and relief. Our Lord had
betrothed her and sealed his promise.
Then she heard Our Lord say,
'I WILL GIVE YOU THREE PROMISES AS GIFTS OF OUR UNION....WHAT WOULD
YOU LIKE?'
Rasa said she only wanted Our Lord, nothing else. He told her to ask
for something to do with her life on earth. Rasa asked for three
things. One will be disclosed here,
'I want to have spiritual relationships with men.'
(This request would be ratified before long in the amazing ministry to
Purgatory that Rasa would be given, and also in the celibacy she would
receive which would render spiritual relationships more probable.)
As Rasa slept this magic night, she felt Bliss all around her, and
that she was a fish swimming in the Infinite Ocean of Bliss. Every
time she woke up she went under the covers in the pitch black to see
if she could see the rings, and throughout the night, she could see
the three rings glowing.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
May 27, 1978: Vow of celibacy.
Five days prior to this, Rasa was on her knees to Our Holy Mother,
praying the rosary. She made a special request,
'I want you, Holy Mother, to be not only the Mother of my soul, but of
my body.'
The room filled with blue light and became supernatural. Our Holy
Mother spoke to Rasa, saying,
'I WANT YOU TO STOP HAVING SEX WITH MEN.'
Rasa dwelt upon this and five days later made her pledge to Our Holy
Mother. Our Dear Lady gave her the grace to keep this vow. In 1990
God spoke to Rasa and said she could be released from her vow, as it
had done its work. She was not interested in sex any more. Rasa
declined to end the vow. God has shown her in many dreams and visions
that this vow was a great instrument in her subsequent success not
only in the spiritual realm, but in the earthly sense as well. It
kept her from much harm and brought her good of all kinds. Sexual
desire/activity would have deterred and obscured the perfect focus
that she has.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Feb. 9, 1982:
Great dream of Our Lord as 'Julius Caesar' (a man in armour on a white
horse) or 'Commander in Chief.'
In this dream there is a great silence, like awe, and then He appears
on the horse. He dismounts, where we lounge together, I laying on top
of him. He tells me that
'YOU ARE ME, AND I AM YOU.'
I have become 'God's General,' or a soul God can trust to lead an
army! Jesus as Commanding General and I are One! That means I am
ready for spiritual leadership!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
April 16, 1981 (Holy Thursday): Gift of 'Cleansing of Images' as
described by Ven. Mary of Agreda. In this miracle of vision I am
lifted above images, memories and experiences for four days and nights
and enjoy profound peace. It is a gift because of Mary of Agreda, as
I have just finished her four-volume book, 'Mystical City of God.'
(My favorite book of all time.) This is also a prelude to the
experience of seeing God face to face, coming forth in ten months.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Oct. 5, 1982: Gifts of Poverty, Chastity and Obedience from Our
Blessed Mother (Infused Virtues.)
Rasa is standing in the middle of the living room, wherein are
portraits of the Sacred Heart of Jesus on one side, and on the other,
The Immaculate Heart of Mary. Rasa is facing Jesus and praying the
holy rosary. She hears the voice of Our Holy Mother beckoning her to
turn around. As she does, the room fills with blue light and turns
supernatural.
'DO YOU LIKE THE RINGS MY SON GAVE YOU?' Holy Mary asks.
'Yes, what more could anyone ask for? Rasa answers.
Quickly Holy Mary says,
'I HAVE MY GIFTS TO GIVE YOU TOO.'
'What are they, Mother?'
'THEY ARE POVERTY, CHASTITY AND OBEDIENCE.'
Rasa asks Mary to explain poverty and obedience. Holy Mary says,
'TO BE ATTACHED ONLY TO GOD,' and
'TO OBEY ALL THAT YOU KNOW OF MY SON AND MYSELF.'
As Holy Mary and Rasa communicate, Rasa sees three grey bands, (like
ropes monks or nuns would wear) made of light, surrounding her waist.
They are extending upward into Heaven, where they are (she believes)
anchored or held by God through Holy Mary.
Rasa knows her time is short - the vision will fade. She quickly
spills out to Mary her many hopes for the future, toward building a
'Mary Magdalene Monastery' and many other projects. Mary listens
patiently and says one more thing,
'I WILL COME FOR YOU WHEN YOU ARE FINISHED WITH YOUR WORK.'
The vision fades. Rasa has now been assured of eternal life and
predestination by both Our Lord and Holy Mary! They will be present
when she dies!
Rasa also realizes that Holy Mary appeared to answer her prayer. She
had heard from a stigmatized monk named Brother Gino that Mary
appeared to him and cried. He asked her why She was crying and She said,
'BECAUSE I HAVE GRACES TO GIVE WHICH NO ONE ASKS FOR!'
Brother Gino does not explain what these graces are, but Rasa begins
to pray for them daily, for about three weeks or so. Now she knows
what those graces are! (No wonder no one prays for them!....most
people do not want Mary's precious graces! But oh, my dear God, how
valuable they are! People want the trash and they throw out the Gold!)
Next Installment:
Rasa begins ministry to souls in Purgatory, beginning with Errol Flynn
Sainthood or where Oneness begins)
http://www.womanthouartgod.com/beatific.php
Installment I
Jan. 11, 1978:
Betrothal to Our Lord Jesus Christ. Rings of Faith, Hope and Charity
are given to Rasa by Jesus himself. (Infused Theological Virtues).
On this night, it was stupendous. It happened in a hotel in Chicago.
Rasa had a dream and knew that this dream portended great heartbreak
and pain from a man she was enamored of. She looked at Jesus photo on
her wall and said to him,
'Promise me that I will not die without paying for my sins.'
The room filled with blue light and everything became supernatural.
Rasa heard Our Lord say,
'I PROMISE YOU THAT YOU WILL DIE IN MY ARMS.'
Rasa cried tears of joy and pain. She then said to Our Lord,
'As proof of this, will you give me a ring?'
She held out her left hand and suddenly from Heaven came a Blue Light
in a stream, striking the pinky of her hand. Rasa said,
'That's not the right finger!'
Then a second light descended from Heaven (these lights exploded like
fireworks when they hit her hand) and struck her index finger,
exploding there. Rasa said,
'That is also not the right finger!'
Suddenly the third light came from Heaven and struck the finger next
to the pinky - the one signifiying betrothal or marriage (union) and
exploded. Rasa cried again with joy and relief. Our Lord had
betrothed her and sealed his promise.
Then she heard Our Lord say,
'I WILL GIVE YOU THREE PROMISES AS GIFTS OF OUR UNION....WHAT WOULD
YOU LIKE?'
Rasa said she only wanted Our Lord, nothing else. He told her to ask
for something to do with her life on earth. Rasa asked for three
things. One will be disclosed here,
'I want to have spiritual relationships with men.'
(This request would be ratified before long in the amazing ministry to
Purgatory that Rasa would be given, and also in the celibacy she would
receive which would render spiritual relationships more probable.)
As Rasa slept this magic night, she felt Bliss all around her, and
that she was a fish swimming in the Infinite Ocean of Bliss. Every
time she woke up she went under the covers in the pitch black to see
if she could see the rings, and throughout the night, she could see
the three rings glowing.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
May 27, 1978: Vow of celibacy.
Five days prior to this, Rasa was on her knees to Our Holy Mother,
praying the rosary. She made a special request,
'I want you, Holy Mother, to be not only the Mother of my soul, but of
my body.'
The room filled with blue light and became supernatural. Our Holy
Mother spoke to Rasa, saying,
'I WANT YOU TO STOP HAVING SEX WITH MEN.'
Rasa dwelt upon this and five days later made her pledge to Our Holy
Mother. Our Dear Lady gave her the grace to keep this vow. In 1990
God spoke to Rasa and said she could be released from her vow, as it
had done its work. She was not interested in sex any more. Rasa
declined to end the vow. God has shown her in many dreams and visions
that this vow was a great instrument in her subsequent success not
only in the spiritual realm, but in the earthly sense as well. It
kept her from much harm and brought her good of all kinds. Sexual
desire/activity would have deterred and obscured the perfect focus
that she has.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Feb. 9, 1982:
Great dream of Our Lord as 'Julius Caesar' (a man in armour on a white
horse) or 'Commander in Chief.'
In this dream there is a great silence, like awe, and then He appears
on the horse. He dismounts, where we lounge together, I laying on top
of him. He tells me that
'YOU ARE ME, AND I AM YOU.'
I have become 'God's General,' or a soul God can trust to lead an
army! Jesus as Commanding General and I are One! That means I am
ready for spiritual leadership!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
April 16, 1981 (Holy Thursday): Gift of 'Cleansing of Images' as
described by Ven. Mary of Agreda. In this miracle of vision I am
lifted above images, memories and experiences for four days and nights
and enjoy profound peace. It is a gift because of Mary of Agreda, as
I have just finished her four-volume book, 'Mystical City of God.'
(My favorite book of all time.) This is also a prelude to the
experience of seeing God face to face, coming forth in ten months.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Oct. 5, 1982: Gifts of Poverty, Chastity and Obedience from Our
Blessed Mother (Infused Virtues.)
Rasa is standing in the middle of the living room, wherein are
portraits of the Sacred Heart of Jesus on one side, and on the other,
The Immaculate Heart of Mary. Rasa is facing Jesus and praying the
holy rosary. She hears the voice of Our Holy Mother beckoning her to
turn around. As she does, the room fills with blue light and turns
supernatural.
'DO YOU LIKE THE RINGS MY SON GAVE YOU?' Holy Mary asks.
'Yes, what more could anyone ask for? Rasa answers.
Quickly Holy Mary says,
'I HAVE MY GIFTS TO GIVE YOU TOO.'
'What are they, Mother?'
'THEY ARE POVERTY, CHASTITY AND OBEDIENCE.'
Rasa asks Mary to explain poverty and obedience. Holy Mary says,
'TO BE ATTACHED ONLY TO GOD,' and
'TO OBEY ALL THAT YOU KNOW OF MY SON AND MYSELF.'
As Holy Mary and Rasa communicate, Rasa sees three grey bands, (like
ropes monks or nuns would wear) made of light, surrounding her waist.
They are extending upward into Heaven, where they are (she believes)
anchored or held by God through Holy Mary.
Rasa knows her time is short - the vision will fade. She quickly
spills out to Mary her many hopes for the future, toward building a
'Mary Magdalene Monastery' and many other projects. Mary listens
patiently and says one more thing,
'I WILL COME FOR YOU WHEN YOU ARE FINISHED WITH YOUR WORK.'
The vision fades. Rasa has now been assured of eternal life and
predestination by both Our Lord and Holy Mary! They will be present
when she dies!
Rasa also realizes that Holy Mary appeared to answer her prayer. She
had heard from a stigmatized monk named Brother Gino that Mary
appeared to him and cried. He asked her why She was crying and She said,
'BECAUSE I HAVE GRACES TO GIVE WHICH NO ONE ASKS FOR!'
Brother Gino does not explain what these graces are, but Rasa begins
to pray for them daily, for about three weeks or so. Now she knows
what those graces are! (No wonder no one prays for them!....most
people do not want Mary's precious graces! But oh, my dear God, how
valuable they are! People want the trash and they throw out the Gold!)
Next Installment:
Rasa begins ministry to souls in Purgatory, beginning with Errol Flynn
IMPORTANT APPENDIX TO ADAM COIN DREAM
Rasa Von Werder
Adam Smith has dreamed that coins are being melted down and changed
into ornaments. I interpret the dream and I call it the
'Transfiguration in Christ' dream.
Here is an important point. When Adam becomes Christ, when he becomes
the image of Jesus, what does he become? What does Jesus represent?
This is of utmost importance.
When Adam becomes Jesus, he has become 'the sacrficial lamb' or in
other words, his love is of the highest love there is, true spiritual
self-sacrificing love.
Certainly, when we become Jesus we do not become the historical Jesus
in the flesh. We become WHAT HE CAME TO TEACH US. He came to show us
'the way, the truth, and the life.' And so, when we follow his way,
we become, within our own bodies and souls, what He taught us. In
Adam's coin dream, this is represented. Adam has become a true
sacrificial lamb, and the angels are telling him NOT TO FORGET IT. Do
not forget your identity, who you are! You are just like Jesus!
Adam Smith has dreamed that coins are being melted down and changed
into ornaments. I interpret the dream and I call it the
'Transfiguration in Christ' dream.
Here is an important point. When Adam becomes Christ, when he becomes
the image of Jesus, what does he become? What does Jesus represent?
This is of utmost importance.
When Adam becomes Jesus, he has become 'the sacrficial lamb' or in
other words, his love is of the highest love there is, true spiritual
self-sacrificing love.
Certainly, when we become Jesus we do not become the historical Jesus
in the flesh. We become WHAT HE CAME TO TEACH US. He came to show us
'the way, the truth, and the life.' And so, when we follow his way,
we become, within our own bodies and souls, what He taught us. In
Adam's coin dream, this is represented. Adam has become a true
sacrificial lamb, and the angels are telling him NOT TO FORGET IT. Do
not forget your identity, who you are! You are just like Jesus!
TRANSFIGURED INTO CHRIST....Interpreted by Rasa Von Werder
Subject: Another dream of Christ
Dear Divine GuruRaza,
Thanks so much for the analyses of my dreams. They have always puzzled
me and things are much clearer now. A few days ago I had another
dream relating to Christ, not as spectacular perhaps as the other dream
yet it stays in my mind.
I was in an old coin shop with two young
ladies
*** THESE ARE 'OLD MERITS' OR VALUABLE KARMA FROM THE PAST. NO
DOUBT, SUFFERINGS YOU ENDURED THAT EARNED MERIT.
YOUNG LADIES MUST BE ANGELS WORKING FOR GOD.
who's job was to melt these old coins
*** TO TRANSFORM YOUR FORMER MERIT INTO.....
and make ornaments out of
them.
*** ORNAMENTS ARE LIKE MEDALS. PURPLE HEART, SILVER STAR, SILVER,
BRONZE, GOLD OLYMPIC MEDALS, ETC. THESE MEDALS SIGNIFY VICTORY - IN
THIS CASE SPIRITUAL VICTORIES.
*** THIS IMAGE SEEMS TO ME THAT JESUS CHRIST IS WHO YOU ARE MODELLED
AFTER . HE IS YOUR MODEL, IDOL, IDEAL. THOSE SUFFERINGS YOU WENT
THROUGH FORMED AN IMAGE OF JESUS IN YOU, (LIKE WE ARE MADE IN THE
IMAGE AND LIKENESS OF GOD) AND THIS IS SEEN HERE AS AN 'ORNAMENT' ON
THE OUTSIDE, DENOTING YOUR IDENTITY AND VICTORY OVER EVIL. YOU
ENDURED WITH CHRIST, YOU BECAME CHRIST, AND NOW BEING TRANSFIGURED,
YOU ARE PROTECTED BY THE IMAGE OF CHRIST. THE EXTERIOR BODY HANGING
ON YOUR NECK IS A SYMBOL OF THE CHRIST IN YOU. EVIL FORCES CAN SEE
THAT, SO YOU ARE PROTECTED.
I was approached by a young girl who placed a small metal body
image of Christ around my neck and told me to keep it on.
*** NEVER EFACE IN YOUR MIND, THIS IMAGE OF OUR LORD, BUT KEEP IT IN
YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS DAILY.
Was so
memorable for me was the manner in which she said it. Her strong tone
of voice had a great urgency about it and she made me feel that it was
imperative that I put this image around my neck and KEEP it there-for
my safety.
*** YOUR GUARDIAN ANGEL URGES YOU AS TO THE IMPORTANCE OF KEEPING
THIS IMAGE IN YOUR MIND. WHEN YOU THINK OF JESUS, YOU ARE
AUTOMATICALLY PROTECTED. YOUR FAITH IN HIM AND YOUR LOVE BRINGS HIS
POWER TO YOU.
YOU AND HE ARE ONE, BUT YOU MUST REMEMBER IT!
It felt so good after I put it on!
*** THE REASON I UNDERSTOOD THE COINS IS BECAUSE COINS ARE VALUE AND
THEY ARE METAL. CONSIDER THE NAILS PUT INTO JESUS' HANDS AND FEET -
THEY WERE METAL. METAL IN A DREAM LIKE THIS MEANS THE HARSH AND
TERRIBLE WILL OF GOD. YOU HAVE UNDERGONE REDEMPTIVE SUFFERINGS IN
ORDER TO SAVE OR HELP OTHER SOULS. IT IS HARSH AND TERRIBLE, BUT
BRINGS GREAT VICTORY FOR YOU, AND SO, YOU ARE DECORATED BY A MEDAL
THAT IS THE VERY IMAGE OF JESUS CHRIST.
IN ANOTHER LETTER, SON, YOU SPOKE OF SATAN PREVENTING YOU FROM
RECEIVING THE LOVE YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE. THIS COULD BE PART OF YOUR
SUFFERING. IF IT IS THE WILL OF GOD, ACCEPT IT UNTIL THE TIME GOD
DECIDES TO BRING YOU WHAT YOU WANT. GOD CAN STOP SATAN IN A SPLIT
SECOND. GOD ALLOWS DEMONS TO AFFECT US TEMPORARILY SO THAT WE CAN GAIN
MERITS AND VICTORIES. ALL THE SAINTS WERE TORTURED, JESUS AND MARY
SUFFERED GREATLY. IT IS ALWAYS TEMPORARY AND THEN THERE ARE HIGH
MOMENTS, LIKE THESE DREAMS, WHERE GOD'S OWN APPEAR TO REASSURE YOU.
THESE TIMES ARE HARD BUT THEY ARE THE TIMES WHICH WILL LATER BEAR THE
GREATEST FRUIT. SOME DAY YOU WILL LOOK BACK UPON SUFFERING AND
REALIZE IT WAS NOTHING COMPARED TO THE ETERNAL JOY AND GLORY. AND OF
COURSE, THE MORE OF THESE PAINS YOU ENDURE, THE GREATER YOUR GLORY FOR
ALL ETERNITY. GOD PAYS US FOR THIS!
Please, if you have the
time, let me know what you feel about this dream.
I would also like to say that I am new to your group but I believe that
God has led me too you and I feel that I am in the presence of a
wonderful light of wisdom and peace. I do not understand the criticism
of others
*** THE CRITICISM ON ME IS LIKE THE DEVIL HURTING YOU. PAUL SAID TO
TIMOTHY,
'THE GREATER THE ANOINTING, THE GREATER THE PERSECUTION.'
YOUNG TIMOTHY ASKED FOR A GREATER ANOINTING SO HE COULD DO BETTER
WORK, BUT PAUL, THE SEASONED VETERAN OF SPIRITUAL WARFARE, KNEW WHAT
WOULD HAPPEN.
I MYSELF OPTED FOR THE BIGGEST ANOINTING I COULD GET, AND THIS
CRITICISM AND ATTACKS PROVE THAT I HAVE IT. THEY COME AT ME IN WAVES,
AND ALMOST EVERY GROUP I OWN AND MANY I POSTED ON, HAVE HAD SEVERE
ATTACKS. I HAVE STOPPED WORRYING ABOUT IT, BECAUSE EVEN IF IT BREAKS
APART A GROUP FOR A TIME, I JUST KEEP GOING. OVERALL, NOTHING CAN STOP
MY WORK OR SUCCESS - NOR CAN ANYTHING STOP YOUR VICTORIES IN THE LONG RUN.
but we must remember how just and wise people have always
been persecuted ie. Socrates.
Thanks for being here, GuruRaza! Adam (your devotee, at your divine
feet)
MY PLEASURE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE ON MY DEVOTEE, WITH YOUR PHOTO? IF
SO, PLEASE SEND ME A PHOTO.
MUCH LOVE TO YOU SON!
RASA
Dear Divine GuruRaza,
Thanks so much for the analyses of my dreams. They have always puzzled
me and things are much clearer now. A few days ago I had another
dream relating to Christ, not as spectacular perhaps as the other dream
yet it stays in my mind.
I was in an old coin shop with two young
ladies
*** THESE ARE 'OLD MERITS' OR VALUABLE KARMA FROM THE PAST. NO
DOUBT, SUFFERINGS YOU ENDURED THAT EARNED MERIT.
YOUNG LADIES MUST BE ANGELS WORKING FOR GOD.
who's job was to melt these old coins
*** TO TRANSFORM YOUR FORMER MERIT INTO.....
and make ornaments out of
them.
*** ORNAMENTS ARE LIKE MEDALS. PURPLE HEART, SILVER STAR, SILVER,
BRONZE, GOLD OLYMPIC MEDALS, ETC. THESE MEDALS SIGNIFY VICTORY - IN
THIS CASE SPIRITUAL VICTORIES.
*** THIS IMAGE SEEMS TO ME THAT JESUS CHRIST IS WHO YOU ARE MODELLED
AFTER . HE IS YOUR MODEL, IDOL, IDEAL. THOSE SUFFERINGS YOU WENT
THROUGH FORMED AN IMAGE OF JESUS IN YOU, (LIKE WE ARE MADE IN THE
IMAGE AND LIKENESS OF GOD) AND THIS IS SEEN HERE AS AN 'ORNAMENT' ON
THE OUTSIDE, DENOTING YOUR IDENTITY AND VICTORY OVER EVIL. YOU
ENDURED WITH CHRIST, YOU BECAME CHRIST, AND NOW BEING TRANSFIGURED,
YOU ARE PROTECTED BY THE IMAGE OF CHRIST. THE EXTERIOR BODY HANGING
ON YOUR NECK IS A SYMBOL OF THE CHRIST IN YOU. EVIL FORCES CAN SEE
THAT, SO YOU ARE PROTECTED.
I was approached by a young girl who placed a small metal body
image of Christ around my neck and told me to keep it on.
*** NEVER EFACE IN YOUR MIND, THIS IMAGE OF OUR LORD, BUT KEEP IT IN
YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS DAILY.
Was so
memorable for me was the manner in which she said it. Her strong tone
of voice had a great urgency about it and she made me feel that it was
imperative that I put this image around my neck and KEEP it there-for
my safety.
*** YOUR GUARDIAN ANGEL URGES YOU AS TO THE IMPORTANCE OF KEEPING
THIS IMAGE IN YOUR MIND. WHEN YOU THINK OF JESUS, YOU ARE
AUTOMATICALLY PROTECTED. YOUR FAITH IN HIM AND YOUR LOVE BRINGS HIS
POWER TO YOU.
YOU AND HE ARE ONE, BUT YOU MUST REMEMBER IT!
It felt so good after I put it on!
*** THE REASON I UNDERSTOOD THE COINS IS BECAUSE COINS ARE VALUE AND
THEY ARE METAL. CONSIDER THE NAILS PUT INTO JESUS' HANDS AND FEET -
THEY WERE METAL. METAL IN A DREAM LIKE THIS MEANS THE HARSH AND
TERRIBLE WILL OF GOD. YOU HAVE UNDERGONE REDEMPTIVE SUFFERINGS IN
ORDER TO SAVE OR HELP OTHER SOULS. IT IS HARSH AND TERRIBLE, BUT
BRINGS GREAT VICTORY FOR YOU, AND SO, YOU ARE DECORATED BY A MEDAL
THAT IS THE VERY IMAGE OF JESUS CHRIST.
IN ANOTHER LETTER, SON, YOU SPOKE OF SATAN PREVENTING YOU FROM
RECEIVING THE LOVE YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE. THIS COULD BE PART OF YOUR
SUFFERING. IF IT IS THE WILL OF GOD, ACCEPT IT UNTIL THE TIME GOD
DECIDES TO BRING YOU WHAT YOU WANT. GOD CAN STOP SATAN IN A SPLIT
SECOND. GOD ALLOWS DEMONS TO AFFECT US TEMPORARILY SO THAT WE CAN GAIN
MERITS AND VICTORIES. ALL THE SAINTS WERE TORTURED, JESUS AND MARY
SUFFERED GREATLY. IT IS ALWAYS TEMPORARY AND THEN THERE ARE HIGH
MOMENTS, LIKE THESE DREAMS, WHERE GOD'S OWN APPEAR TO REASSURE YOU.
THESE TIMES ARE HARD BUT THEY ARE THE TIMES WHICH WILL LATER BEAR THE
GREATEST FRUIT. SOME DAY YOU WILL LOOK BACK UPON SUFFERING AND
REALIZE IT WAS NOTHING COMPARED TO THE ETERNAL JOY AND GLORY. AND OF
COURSE, THE MORE OF THESE PAINS YOU ENDURE, THE GREATER YOUR GLORY FOR
ALL ETERNITY. GOD PAYS US FOR THIS!
Please, if you have the
time, let me know what you feel about this dream.
I would also like to say that I am new to your group but I believe that
God has led me too you and I feel that I am in the presence of a
wonderful light of wisdom and peace. I do not understand the criticism
of others
*** THE CRITICISM ON ME IS LIKE THE DEVIL HURTING YOU. PAUL SAID TO
TIMOTHY,
'THE GREATER THE ANOINTING, THE GREATER THE PERSECUTION.'
YOUNG TIMOTHY ASKED FOR A GREATER ANOINTING SO HE COULD DO BETTER
WORK, BUT PAUL, THE SEASONED VETERAN OF SPIRITUAL WARFARE, KNEW WHAT
WOULD HAPPEN.
I MYSELF OPTED FOR THE BIGGEST ANOINTING I COULD GET, AND THIS
CRITICISM AND ATTACKS PROVE THAT I HAVE IT. THEY COME AT ME IN WAVES,
AND ALMOST EVERY GROUP I OWN AND MANY I POSTED ON, HAVE HAD SEVERE
ATTACKS. I HAVE STOPPED WORRYING ABOUT IT, BECAUSE EVEN IF IT BREAKS
APART A GROUP FOR A TIME, I JUST KEEP GOING. OVERALL, NOTHING CAN STOP
MY WORK OR SUCCESS - NOR CAN ANYTHING STOP YOUR VICTORIES IN THE LONG RUN.
but we must remember how just and wise people have always
been persecuted ie. Socrates.
Thanks for being here, GuruRaza! Adam (your devotee, at your divine
feet)
MY PLEASURE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE ON MY DEVOTEE, WITH YOUR PHOTO? IF
SO, PLEASE SEND ME A PHOTO.
MUCH LOVE TO YOU SON!
RASA
THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST IS LADY JESUS!
From: "Mike Trotman"
To:
the evolution of matriarchy
> Greetings, Rasa. Hope this finds you in your full powers and in the
sure
> embrace of love.
*** THANK YOU! THE SAME TO YOU!
> I was rereading your comeback to that York guy who was disenchanted
about
> the coming of matriarchy. Then not a day later, I glimpsed at an
online article
> by Newsweek about "how women lead." Discounting the predictable
fatuity and
> sensationalism of a major media organ, you still have to give them
credit for
> great timing!
*** WE WILL BE SEEING THIS MORE AND MORE. MATRIARCHY WILL BECOME AN
ISSUE. WE ON THE WEB ARE HELPING IT GET STARTED AS A TOPIC BECAUSE WE
KNOW IT IS COMING!
I think it's too bad that York guy could not overcome his anxieties
> by rethinking the terms of his argument. He seemed to be saying that
the new
> matriarchy will not be much different from the hiearchies of old.
But if I read you
> correctly, your point is very much that matriarchy is evolving, and
that in fact
> the very reason it is on its way back is because it has transformed
itself under
> the impetus of new conditions (I hope you'll be patient with me if
I've grossly
> misunderstood; I am here to learn). A modern woman-mastered society
will be
> one of caring, not exploitation, but the nature and tenor of that
caring might be
> surprisingly different from the ancient model. After all, women
themselves have
> changed, evolved. They've added advanced education and technological
> prowess to their native adaptability and resourcefulness. They move
forward
> without making a big deal of it!
*** THIS IS VERY GOOD AND RIGHTFUL THINKING. LIKE I HAVE BEEN SAYING
TO ALL WHO WILL HEAR. SO YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN THE ANCIENT
MATRIARCHIES? EVEN IF THEY NEVER EXISTED, IT IS COMING! HAVE HEARD
SOME LAME ARGUMENTS ABOUT THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE MALE SPERM PART,
ETC., THEREFORE, GAVE CREDIT SOLELY TO WOMEN FOR REPRODUCTION. THAT
SEEMS FAR FETCHED, AS THEY HAD FARM ANIMALS AND KNEW A GOOSE NEEDS A
GANDER TO REPRODUCE! OTHERWISE YOU WOULD HAVE HAD NO FARM ANIMALS!
AND THEY HERDED GOATS AND SHEEP FOR SO MANY THOUSANDS OF YEARS, TRULY
THEY KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON! HOW STUPID COULD YOU BE?
AS I SAID, NOW WE HAVE BIOLOGICAL PROOF THAT MAKES MATRIARCHY A SOUND
DECISION, A MANDATE FOR THIS PLANET! GOD IS HERE! AND NOW, GOD IS
HERE AS MOTHERGOD, NOT WARGOD, TO SAVE THE PLANET!
THERE IS A MOVIE CALLED 'LAST MAN ON THE PLANET' OR 'LAST MAN ON
PLANET EARTH' WHERE A WOMAN FINDS A VIRUS, PUT IN THE WATER, THAT
KILLS OFF MOST OF THE MEN. MOTHERGOD HAS ALREADY DONE SOMETHING LIKE
THAT IN A LEFT HANDED WAY. ALL THE FILTH MEN HAVE PRODUCED - THE
PLASTICS AND COSMETIC FILTH THEY MADE SO MUCH MONEY ON (INCLUDING
TESTING ON INNOCENT ANIMALS IN ITS PRODUCTION) IS NOW POISONING MALES.
ONLY THE MALES ARE AFFECTED. THESE POISONS ARE AFFECTING MALES IN
THE WOMB AND OUTSIDE OF IT. AND THESE CHEMICALS ARE AFFECTING THEIR
REPRODUCTIVE SYSTEMS AND MASCULINITY. PLEASE READ ON MY SITE:
http://www.womanthouartgod.com/menlessmale01.php
http://www.womanthouartgod.com/menlessmale02.php
THESE ARTICLES EXPLAIN HOW CHEMICALS ARE TURNING MEN MORE FEMININE,
AND THEREFORE, LESS VIOLENT! AND THIS IS WHAT GOD TOLD ME IN 1992,
THAT GOD WAS SAVING THE WORLD BY MAKING WOMEN MORE MASCULINE AND MEN
MORE FEMININE!
So it's entirely possible that unlike patriarchy,
> matriarchy may not even be noticeable as such!
*** GOOD POINT. I DO NOT THINK WOMEN WILL HAVE THE SAME STYLE AS
MEN. NO WAY!
It may be more of a stealth
> reconstitution of society; female norms may simply replace male
norms as
> evolutionary steps forward (subsidized child care, health care, higher
> education, etc.).
*** SEE MY SITE ON THE FUTURE OF MALE-FEMALE RELATIONSHIP. THIS
VISION CAME TO ME DIRECTLY FROM GOD!
http://www.womanthouartgod.com/mfrelationshipsi.php
The only area in which I could see men recognizing the
> "threat" to their hegemony is in the religious/spiritual, as their
war god (the
> current right-wing Jesus) is openly challenged by an alternative vision.
*** CAN'T YOU SEE THEIR MALE CHURCHES CRUMBLING? I CERTAINLY CAN!
IT IS KNOWLEDGE AND INFORMATION. IT IS BLASTING THE HELL OUT OF THEIR
MYTHS AND FAIRY TALES! PEOPLE HAVE STOPPED BELIEVING ALL THEIR SEXIST
CRAP. THOSE THAT DO WILL STAY IN LITTLE CULTS AS THE MALE CHURCHES
SHRINK SMALLER AND SMALLER.
ONCE THE SEXIST CATHOLIC CHURCH WAS A MAJOR PLAYER IN POLITICS AS WELL
AS SPIRITUALITY. NOW IT IS A LAUGING STOCK. THEY HAVE BROUGHT ABOUT
THEIR OWN DEMISE THROUGH THEIR OWN EVIL. THE LAST GREAT LIGHT OF THE
CATHOLIC CHURCH - JOHN PAUL II, HAVING DIED, ALL HOPES FOR CREDIBILITY
HAVE DIED. THEY ARE SILLY MEN WHO PERPETRATED LIES UPON PEOPLE FOR
MANY YEARS. IT'S ALL OVER NOW.
AND WHIMSICALLY, IT IS TOO LATE TO REFORM THEM. THEIR LAST CHANCE
CAME ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO AND THERE COULD HAVE BEEN HOPE FOR THEM, BUT
NOT NOW. THEY MIGHT HAVE WOMEN AS PRIESTS, BUT STILL, THEY CAN NO
LONGER STOP THE SHRINKAGE OF THE CHURCH. BECAUSE WOMEN HAVE GIVEN UP
ON THEM AND HAVE NOW MOVED AHEAD, THEY ARE STARTING THEIR OWN
SPIRITUAL VENUES. IT IS RATHER NEBULOUS NOW - WOMEN'S SPIRITUALITY -
BUT IT IS GETTING STRONGER BY THE DAY AND SOON WILL BE INSTITUTIONS OF
POWER AND INFLUENCE.
> My only real concern for this evolutionary process, Rasa, is about its
> permanence. Matriarchy was displaced once before. Do you think it
could be
> rolled back once women have reasserted their supremacy? How will the
> matriarchs hold on to their dominance? Would simple control of the
resources
> and seats of power make matriarchy a fait accompli,
*** THAT IS PART OF IT.
or will matriarchy require
> constant social conditioning the way patriarchy has, offering up
myths and
> "facts" and giving a false
*** NOT FALSE. PATRIARCHY WAS BUILT UPON MYTHS AND LIES, AND WOMEN
WERE HELD DOWN LIKE CORKS. BUT THEY CANNOT HOLD ON ANY MORE AND WOMEN
HAVE POPPED UP. NO LIES, MIKE, JUST THE TRUTH SETS WOMEN FREE. AND
ALSO MEN FROM THE MACHO VIOLENCE AND COLDHEARTEDNESS OF BRUTAL MEN.
but palpable solidity to commonplace ideas about the
> sexes to keep people in a state of compliance? (My own answer is
that it won't;
> I think most of us will welcome the Mother's reign and never look
back, but I'd
> like to know what you and others think.)
*** I THINK SOME THINGS WILL MOVE AHEAD REAL FAST, AS THEY ARE.
WHICH IS EDUCATION, THEN JOBS.
THE SPIRITUAL ISSUES WILL TAKE A BIT LONGER, BUT THE ENTIRE SPIRITUAL
ATMOSPHERE OF THE EARTH WILL CHANGE.
THIS IS THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST ON EARTH! AS A WOMAN! HE WAS A
MATRIARCH, AND ALSO IF I MIGHT ADD, TEACHING YOGA! MATRIARCHAL YOGA,
NOT JUDAISM!
SO, WELCOME LADY JESUS! WELCOME MOTHERGOD! NOW YOU BE THE BIG HEN
AND PUT ALL YOUR CHILDREN UNDER YOUR WINGS, AS WE ARE LISTENING!
MUCH LOVE,
GURURASA
To:
the evolution of matriarchy
> Greetings, Rasa. Hope this finds you in your full powers and in the
sure
> embrace of love.
*** THANK YOU! THE SAME TO YOU!
> I was rereading your comeback to that York guy who was disenchanted
about
> the coming of matriarchy. Then not a day later, I glimpsed at an
online article
> by Newsweek about "how women lead." Discounting the predictable
fatuity and
> sensationalism of a major media organ, you still have to give them
credit for
> great timing!
*** WE WILL BE SEEING THIS MORE AND MORE. MATRIARCHY WILL BECOME AN
ISSUE. WE ON THE WEB ARE HELPING IT GET STARTED AS A TOPIC BECAUSE WE
KNOW IT IS COMING!
I think it's too bad that York guy could not overcome his anxieties
> by rethinking the terms of his argument. He seemed to be saying that
the new
> matriarchy will not be much different from the hiearchies of old.
But if I read you
> correctly, your point is very much that matriarchy is evolving, and
that in fact
> the very reason it is on its way back is because it has transformed
itself under
> the impetus of new conditions (I hope you'll be patient with me if
I've grossly
> misunderstood; I am here to learn). A modern woman-mastered society
will be
> one of caring, not exploitation, but the nature and tenor of that
caring might be
> surprisingly different from the ancient model. After all, women
themselves have
> changed, evolved. They've added advanced education and technological
> prowess to their native adaptability and resourcefulness. They move
forward
> without making a big deal of it!
*** THIS IS VERY GOOD AND RIGHTFUL THINKING. LIKE I HAVE BEEN SAYING
TO ALL WHO WILL HEAR. SO YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN THE ANCIENT
MATRIARCHIES? EVEN IF THEY NEVER EXISTED, IT IS COMING! HAVE HEARD
SOME LAME ARGUMENTS ABOUT THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE MALE SPERM PART,
ETC., THEREFORE, GAVE CREDIT SOLELY TO WOMEN FOR REPRODUCTION. THAT
SEEMS FAR FETCHED, AS THEY HAD FARM ANIMALS AND KNEW A GOOSE NEEDS A
GANDER TO REPRODUCE! OTHERWISE YOU WOULD HAVE HAD NO FARM ANIMALS!
AND THEY HERDED GOATS AND SHEEP FOR SO MANY THOUSANDS OF YEARS, TRULY
THEY KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON! HOW STUPID COULD YOU BE?
AS I SAID, NOW WE HAVE BIOLOGICAL PROOF THAT MAKES MATRIARCHY A SOUND
DECISION, A MANDATE FOR THIS PLANET! GOD IS HERE! AND NOW, GOD IS
HERE AS MOTHERGOD, NOT WARGOD, TO SAVE THE PLANET!
THERE IS A MOVIE CALLED 'LAST MAN ON THE PLANET' OR 'LAST MAN ON
PLANET EARTH' WHERE A WOMAN FINDS A VIRUS, PUT IN THE WATER, THAT
KILLS OFF MOST OF THE MEN. MOTHERGOD HAS ALREADY DONE SOMETHING LIKE
THAT IN A LEFT HANDED WAY. ALL THE FILTH MEN HAVE PRODUCED - THE
PLASTICS AND COSMETIC FILTH THEY MADE SO MUCH MONEY ON (INCLUDING
TESTING ON INNOCENT ANIMALS IN ITS PRODUCTION) IS NOW POISONING MALES.
ONLY THE MALES ARE AFFECTED. THESE POISONS ARE AFFECTING MALES IN
THE WOMB AND OUTSIDE OF IT. AND THESE CHEMICALS ARE AFFECTING THEIR
REPRODUCTIVE SYSTEMS AND MASCULINITY. PLEASE READ ON MY SITE:
http://www.womanthouartgod.com/menlessmale01.php
http://www.womanthouartgod.com/menlessmale02.php
THESE ARTICLES EXPLAIN HOW CHEMICALS ARE TURNING MEN MORE FEMININE,
AND THEREFORE, LESS VIOLENT! AND THIS IS WHAT GOD TOLD ME IN 1992,
THAT GOD WAS SAVING THE WORLD BY MAKING WOMEN MORE MASCULINE AND MEN
MORE FEMININE!
So it's entirely possible that unlike patriarchy,
> matriarchy may not even be noticeable as such!
*** GOOD POINT. I DO NOT THINK WOMEN WILL HAVE THE SAME STYLE AS
MEN. NO WAY!
It may be more of a stealth
> reconstitution of society; female norms may simply replace male
norms as
> evolutionary steps forward (subsidized child care, health care, higher
> education, etc.).
*** SEE MY SITE ON THE FUTURE OF MALE-FEMALE RELATIONSHIP. THIS
VISION CAME TO ME DIRECTLY FROM GOD!
http://www.womanthouartgod.com/mfrelationshipsi.php
The only area in which I could see men recognizing the
> "threat" to their hegemony is in the religious/spiritual, as their
war god (the
> current right-wing Jesus) is openly challenged by an alternative vision.
*** CAN'T YOU SEE THEIR MALE CHURCHES CRUMBLING? I CERTAINLY CAN!
IT IS KNOWLEDGE AND INFORMATION. IT IS BLASTING THE HELL OUT OF THEIR
MYTHS AND FAIRY TALES! PEOPLE HAVE STOPPED BELIEVING ALL THEIR SEXIST
CRAP. THOSE THAT DO WILL STAY IN LITTLE CULTS AS THE MALE CHURCHES
SHRINK SMALLER AND SMALLER.
ONCE THE SEXIST CATHOLIC CHURCH WAS A MAJOR PLAYER IN POLITICS AS WELL
AS SPIRITUALITY. NOW IT IS A LAUGING STOCK. THEY HAVE BROUGHT ABOUT
THEIR OWN DEMISE THROUGH THEIR OWN EVIL. THE LAST GREAT LIGHT OF THE
CATHOLIC CHURCH - JOHN PAUL II, HAVING DIED, ALL HOPES FOR CREDIBILITY
HAVE DIED. THEY ARE SILLY MEN WHO PERPETRATED LIES UPON PEOPLE FOR
MANY YEARS. IT'S ALL OVER NOW.
AND WHIMSICALLY, IT IS TOO LATE TO REFORM THEM. THEIR LAST CHANCE
CAME ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO AND THERE COULD HAVE BEEN HOPE FOR THEM, BUT
NOT NOW. THEY MIGHT HAVE WOMEN AS PRIESTS, BUT STILL, THEY CAN NO
LONGER STOP THE SHRINKAGE OF THE CHURCH. BECAUSE WOMEN HAVE GIVEN UP
ON THEM AND HAVE NOW MOVED AHEAD, THEY ARE STARTING THEIR OWN
SPIRITUAL VENUES. IT IS RATHER NEBULOUS NOW - WOMEN'S SPIRITUALITY -
BUT IT IS GETTING STRONGER BY THE DAY AND SOON WILL BE INSTITUTIONS OF
POWER AND INFLUENCE.
> My only real concern for this evolutionary process, Rasa, is about its
> permanence. Matriarchy was displaced once before. Do you think it
could be
> rolled back once women have reasserted their supremacy? How will the
> matriarchs hold on to their dominance? Would simple control of the
resources
> and seats of power make matriarchy a fait accompli,
*** THAT IS PART OF IT.
or will matriarchy require
> constant social conditioning the way patriarchy has, offering up
myths and
> "facts" and giving a false
*** NOT FALSE. PATRIARCHY WAS BUILT UPON MYTHS AND LIES, AND WOMEN
WERE HELD DOWN LIKE CORKS. BUT THEY CANNOT HOLD ON ANY MORE AND WOMEN
HAVE POPPED UP. NO LIES, MIKE, JUST THE TRUTH SETS WOMEN FREE. AND
ALSO MEN FROM THE MACHO VIOLENCE AND COLDHEARTEDNESS OF BRUTAL MEN.
but palpable solidity to commonplace ideas about the
> sexes to keep people in a state of compliance? (My own answer is
that it won't;
> I think most of us will welcome the Mother's reign and never look
back, but I'd
> like to know what you and others think.)
*** I THINK SOME THINGS WILL MOVE AHEAD REAL FAST, AS THEY ARE.
WHICH IS EDUCATION, THEN JOBS.
THE SPIRITUAL ISSUES WILL TAKE A BIT LONGER, BUT THE ENTIRE SPIRITUAL
ATMOSPHERE OF THE EARTH WILL CHANGE.
THIS IS THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST ON EARTH! AS A WOMAN! HE WAS A
MATRIARCH, AND ALSO IF I MIGHT ADD, TEACHING YOGA! MATRIARCHAL YOGA,
NOT JUDAISM!
SO, WELCOME LADY JESUS! WELCOME MOTHERGOD! NOW YOU BE THE BIG HEN
AND PUT ALL YOUR CHILDREN UNDER YOUR WINGS, AS WE ARE LISTENING!
MUCH LOVE,
GURURASA
IF ONE SEES GOD DOES IT HAVE TO BE A HUMAN FACE?
From: "Achim J W"
To:
WHAT IS HEAVEN LIKE WHEN WE DIE?
> HI RASA YOU WERE SEEING NO FACE WHEN YOU SAW GOD FACE TO FACE
*** Dearest Achim? What is God? God can take any form! What is
wrong is that we are not looking at God with 'supernatural' sight but
with normal sight in our natural world. But when GOD CHANGES OUR
SIGHT WE SEE THE SUPERNATURAL.
Now what is God? My Holy Trinity (and it was confirmed correct to me
in a great dream...... Jesus and Mary appeared to me and called me
out of the restrictions and limitations of the Catholic Church. I
followed them. One of the things Jesus did was He knelt before a
large painting of Nature, to confirm to me the intuition I had shortly
before - that God is Nature - was correct!) My Holy Trinity is God the
Mother, God the Creation, and God the Holy Spirit. If there has to be
a 'Trinity' this is it for me.
Now thinking further, I have always learned of the attributes of God,
which are:
God is Truth
God is Beauty
God is Love.
If you see these things with SUPERNATURAL Vision you have seen God!
We could go on and on with this and add other attributes of God, such
as Justice, Mercy, Abundance, etc. But this will do for our purpose
now. I believe all is covered by those three main attributes.
> YOU HAD A VERY INTENSE EXPERIENCE OF THE NATURAL ASPECTS OF THE
> DIVINE WORLD. THAT SEEMED A BIT STRANGE TO ME AT FIRST. CAN YOU CALL
> A VISION OF NATURE (ALTHOUGH EXTREMELY REAL AND INTENSE) A FACE TO
> FACE ENCOUNTER WITH GOD? DON'T YOU HAVE TO SEE SOME KIND OF PERSON
> ALSO? THEN I WAS REMINDED OF THE SOMETIMES DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND
> BIBLICAL BOOK OF JOB.
*** It is extremely helpful that you were aware of this item. I was
not even aware of it. And you explained it well. So it confirms my
Vision of God. Thank you.
JOB IS DESPERATE AND IS FINALLY CHALLENGING
> GOD TO GIVE HIM AN ANSWER AND TO GRANT HIM A FACE TO FACE ENCOUNTER
> (JOB 31,35 AND SIMILAR VERSES). JOB WANTS GOD TO SHOW HIM HOW
> THE "ALMIGHTY" CAN JUSTIFY AND LEGITIMATE THE PAIN AND THE GRIEF
> THAT JOB HAD TO GO THROUGH. AND FINALLY, AFTER HE CRIED HIS HEART
> OUT AND WAS DESPERATE TO HEAR FROM GOD, GOD IS ABLE TO GIVE HIM AN
> ANSWER AND GRANTS JOB A FACE TO FACE ENCOUNTER. GOD IS TALKING TO
> JOB FACE TO FACE, FRIEND TO FRIEND. AND IN THAT ENCOUNTER GOD IS
> SHOWING JOB ALL THE WONDERS OF CREATION. THEY ARE DESCRIBED IN
> DETAIL, IN CHAPTERS 38, 39 AND 40. IN CHAPTER 39
*** The main thing I recall is the Behemouth! Because in those days,
they had some kind of dinasaur!
GOD IS SHOWING JOB
> SOME EXPERIENCES OF DIFFERENT ANIMAL MOTHERS, FOR EXAMPLE. JOB IS
> OVERWHELMED AND FINALLY FINDING OUT THAT BEFORE THAT "ONLY FROM
> HEARSAY HAVE I KNOWN YOU,BUT NOW MY EYES HAVE SEEN YOU". (JOB 42
> VERSE 5). SO I THINK ALSO THE BIBLE SUPPORTS THE VALIDITY OF YOUR
> EXPERIENCE AS A TRUE GOD ENCOUNTER. I DON'T THINK THAT IS NECESSARY
> BUT IT'S AT LEAST INTERESTING IN MY OPINION.
*** Whenever a person claims something extraordinary such as this,
there are always naysayers. Mine have been mostly jealous women (why
are women so jealous? Because they want to be important! Society has
robbed them of recognition and it really rubs them the wrong way when
another woman claims some sort of priviledge....oh, if they only knew
the price I paid for all the favors I have!) Only one man challenged
me - the priest whom I posted on the I Saw God and Lived, but his post
was amusing and whimsical, not mean, catty or cruel. Remember about
how I outranked Moses, as Moses only saw the backside of God? And I
retorted that if he, the Priest, had behaved, he could have seen the
frontside of God! Stuff like that doesn't hurt. But looking at my
own and a number of groups I posted on, every critic is a female.
This leads me to believe it is a personal issue because I am female
and they would not be as mean to a male. They seem to be still
waiting for male leaders - which does not offend them so much - but
females being outstanding in any way hurts their own confidence. But
that is another issue.
If anyone has any more questions regarding seeing God face to face,
please ask.
GuruRasa
>
> LOVE
>
> ACHIM
>
> --- In isawgodandlived@yahoogroups.com, "Rasa Von Werder"
> wrote:
>>
>> WHAT IS HEAVEN LIKE WHEN WE DIE?
>> RASA'S ANSWERS BELOW: ***
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "adam smith"
>> To:
>> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 9:59 PM
>> Subject: [womanthouartgod] religion after life
>> > Dear Guru Rasa please let me know what religion after life is
> like.
>> > I said Syvia Brown book that states that religion involves
> worship of
>> > Father God and Mother Goddess whom she calls Asna. She also
> states that
>> > in after life people continue to worship the religions which
> they
>> > practiced on earth in churches, mosques etc. How can we
> reconcile this?
>> *** 'IN MY FATHER'S HOUSE THERE ARE MANY MANSIONS' MEANS DOMAINS OR
>> PLACES OF CONSCIOUSNESS AND LIFESTYLE.
>> THERE ARE A COUPLE SCHOOLS OF THOUGHT ON THIS. THE EAST SAYS WE
>> DISSOLVE AND BECOME ONE WITH THE INFINITE AND THERE IS NO MORE US.
>> MY QUESTION TO THEM WOULD BE HOW CAN YOU CALL UPON THE PAST
> AVATARS,
>> GURUS AND SAINTS, IF THEY DO NOT CONTINUE TO EXIST, ON SOME LEVEL,
> AS
>> INDIVIDUALS? (AND HOW CAN YOU CALL ON GODS AND GODDESSES IF THERE
> ARE
>> NO INDIVIDUALS....THERE HAS TO BE INDIVIDUALITY ON SOME LEVEL)
>> THE CATHOLIC VIEW IS THAT WE ARE RESURRECTED BODY AND SOUL. WHEN I
>> WENT TO THE OTHER SIDE - WAS TRANSPORTED - I SAW WHAT THAT MEANT.
> YOU
>> DO NOT TAKE A PHYSICAL BODY BUT YOU DO TAKE YOUR SENSES. YOUR
> SENSES
>> ARE EVER MORE PRONOUNCED AND POWERFUL, BECAUSE THEY ARE INNER
> SENSES.
>> THESE SENSES SENSE EXACTLY AS IF YOU HAD A BODY!
>> THE LIFE ON THE OTHER SIDE IS COMPLETELY SUBJECTIVE AND VARIES
>> ACCORDING TO WHAT THE PERSON EARNED IN RIGTHEOUSNESS. BUT IT ALSO
>> DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY BELIEVED AND DESIRED, WHAT MEANT THE MOST TO
>> THEM. WHATEVER THEY DESIRE AND WISH FOR, BASICALLY, ONCE THEY ARE
> IN
>> HEAVEN, IS WHAT THEY WILL GET.
>> I SAW THAT CLEARLY WHEN MUKTANANDA HAD SOME VISIONS ON THE OTHER
> SIDE,
>> SAW SOME WORLDS THERE, AND THEY WERE ALL ACCORDING TO THE HINDU
>> TRADITION AND HINDU SYMBOLS. COBRAS, WATER BUFFALOS, PEACOCKS,
>> LOTUSES, GODS AND GODDESSES, ETC. HE INSISTED THAT THAT WAS THE
> WAY IT
>> WAS AND NO OTHER WAY! THAT WAS THE WAY TO HIM, BUT NOT TO SOMEONE
> WHO
>> BELIEVED DIFFERENTLY. IT WAS REAL TO HIM, BUT NOT TO A CHRISTIAN.
>> I HAVE HEARD THE STORIES OF CHRISTIANS WHO WENT TO THE OTHER SIDE
> AND
>> GUESS WHAT - THEY SAW JESUS AND ALL THE THINGS OF JESUS THEY
> BELIEVED
>> IN AND ALLTHE DISCIPLES, ETC.
>> AND CATHOLICS? THEY SEE JESUS AND MARY, AND SAINTS.
>> I FIND IT RATHER AMUSING THAT WHEN I SAW GOD FACE TO FACE TWICE I
> SAW
>> NO PEOPLE AT ALL - NO SAINTS, NO PEOPLE. ONLY NATURE, AND I WAS
>> PERFECTLY HAPPY. THIS MIGHT INDICATE WHERE MY HEAD IS AT - WHAT IT
>> WOULD TAKE TO MAKE ME HAPPY.
>> HOWEVER, I AM CONNECTED TO JESUS AND MARY AND THEY BOTH PROMISED
> THEY
>> WOULD BE WITH ME AT DEATH AND TAKE ME TO HEAVEN. I AM ALSO IN CLOSE
>> COMMUNION WITH YOGA SAINTS AND OF COURSE, ALL KINDS OF SAINTS AND
>> ANGELS. SOMEHOW, IT WILL ALL WORK OUT AND IT WILL BE GLORIOUS.
>> MUCH LOVE TO YOU
>> SPIRITUAL MOTHER RASA
>> > I would appreciate your divine wisdom Guru Rasa. adam (at your
> feet)
>> >
To:
WHAT IS HEAVEN LIKE WHEN WE DIE?
> HI RASA YOU WERE SEEING NO FACE WHEN YOU SAW GOD FACE TO FACE
*** Dearest Achim? What is God? God can take any form! What is
wrong is that we are not looking at God with 'supernatural' sight but
with normal sight in our natural world. But when GOD CHANGES OUR
SIGHT WE SEE THE SUPERNATURAL.
Now what is God? My Holy Trinity (and it was confirmed correct to me
in a great dream...... Jesus and Mary appeared to me and called me
out of the restrictions and limitations of the Catholic Church. I
followed them. One of the things Jesus did was He knelt before a
large painting of Nature, to confirm to me the intuition I had shortly
before - that God is Nature - was correct!) My Holy Trinity is God the
Mother, God the Creation, and God the Holy Spirit. If there has to be
a 'Trinity' this is it for me.
Now thinking further, I have always learned of the attributes of God,
which are:
God is Truth
God is Beauty
God is Love.
If you see these things with SUPERNATURAL Vision you have seen God!
We could go on and on with this and add other attributes of God, such
as Justice, Mercy, Abundance, etc. But this will do for our purpose
now. I believe all is covered by those three main attributes.
> YOU HAD A VERY INTENSE EXPERIENCE OF THE NATURAL ASPECTS OF THE
> DIVINE WORLD. THAT SEEMED A BIT STRANGE TO ME AT FIRST. CAN YOU CALL
> A VISION OF NATURE (ALTHOUGH EXTREMELY REAL AND INTENSE) A FACE TO
> FACE ENCOUNTER WITH GOD? DON'T YOU HAVE TO SEE SOME KIND OF PERSON
> ALSO? THEN I WAS REMINDED OF THE SOMETIMES DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND
> BIBLICAL BOOK OF JOB.
*** It is extremely helpful that you were aware of this item. I was
not even aware of it. And you explained it well. So it confirms my
Vision of God. Thank you.
JOB IS DESPERATE AND IS FINALLY CHALLENGING
> GOD TO GIVE HIM AN ANSWER AND TO GRANT HIM A FACE TO FACE ENCOUNTER
> (JOB 31,35 AND SIMILAR VERSES). JOB WANTS GOD TO SHOW HIM HOW
> THE "ALMIGHTY" CAN JUSTIFY AND LEGITIMATE THE PAIN AND THE GRIEF
> THAT JOB HAD TO GO THROUGH. AND FINALLY, AFTER HE CRIED HIS HEART
> OUT AND WAS DESPERATE TO HEAR FROM GOD, GOD IS ABLE TO GIVE HIM AN
> ANSWER AND GRANTS JOB A FACE TO FACE ENCOUNTER. GOD IS TALKING TO
> JOB FACE TO FACE, FRIEND TO FRIEND. AND IN THAT ENCOUNTER GOD IS
> SHOWING JOB ALL THE WONDERS OF CREATION. THEY ARE DESCRIBED IN
> DETAIL, IN CHAPTERS 38, 39 AND 40. IN CHAPTER 39
*** The main thing I recall is the Behemouth! Because in those days,
they had some kind of dinasaur!
GOD IS SHOWING JOB
> SOME EXPERIENCES OF DIFFERENT ANIMAL MOTHERS, FOR EXAMPLE. JOB IS
> OVERWHELMED AND FINALLY FINDING OUT THAT BEFORE THAT "ONLY FROM
> HEARSAY HAVE I KNOWN YOU,BUT NOW MY EYES HAVE SEEN YOU". (JOB 42
> VERSE 5). SO I THINK ALSO THE BIBLE SUPPORTS THE VALIDITY OF YOUR
> EXPERIENCE AS A TRUE GOD ENCOUNTER. I DON'T THINK THAT IS NECESSARY
> BUT IT'S AT LEAST INTERESTING IN MY OPINION.
*** Whenever a person claims something extraordinary such as this,
there are always naysayers. Mine have been mostly jealous women (why
are women so jealous? Because they want to be important! Society has
robbed them of recognition and it really rubs them the wrong way when
another woman claims some sort of priviledge....oh, if they only knew
the price I paid for all the favors I have!) Only one man challenged
me - the priest whom I posted on the I Saw God and Lived, but his post
was amusing and whimsical, not mean, catty or cruel. Remember about
how I outranked Moses, as Moses only saw the backside of God? And I
retorted that if he, the Priest, had behaved, he could have seen the
frontside of God! Stuff like that doesn't hurt. But looking at my
own and a number of groups I posted on, every critic is a female.
This leads me to believe it is a personal issue because I am female
and they would not be as mean to a male. They seem to be still
waiting for male leaders - which does not offend them so much - but
females being outstanding in any way hurts their own confidence. But
that is another issue.
If anyone has any more questions regarding seeing God face to face,
please ask.
GuruRasa
>
> LOVE
>
> ACHIM
>
> --- In isawgodandlived@yahoogroups.com, "Rasa Von Werder"
>
>>
>> WHAT IS HEAVEN LIKE WHEN WE DIE?
>> RASA'S ANSWERS BELOW: ***
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "adam smith"
>> To:
>> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 9:59 PM
>> Subject: [womanthouartgod] religion after life
>> > Dear Guru Rasa please let me know what religion after life is
> like.
>> > I said Syvia Brown book that states that religion involves
> worship of
>> > Father God and Mother Goddess whom she calls Asna. She also
> states that
>> > in after life people continue to worship the religions which
> they
>> > practiced on earth in churches, mosques etc. How can we
> reconcile this?
>> *** 'IN MY FATHER'S HOUSE THERE ARE MANY MANSIONS' MEANS DOMAINS OR
>> PLACES OF CONSCIOUSNESS AND LIFESTYLE.
>> THERE ARE A COUPLE SCHOOLS OF THOUGHT ON THIS. THE EAST SAYS WE
>> DISSOLVE AND BECOME ONE WITH THE INFINITE AND THERE IS NO MORE US.
>> MY QUESTION TO THEM WOULD BE HOW CAN YOU CALL UPON THE PAST
> AVATARS,
>> GURUS AND SAINTS, IF THEY DO NOT CONTINUE TO EXIST, ON SOME LEVEL,
> AS
>> INDIVIDUALS? (AND HOW CAN YOU CALL ON GODS AND GODDESSES IF THERE
> ARE
>> NO INDIVIDUALS....THERE HAS TO BE INDIVIDUALITY ON SOME LEVEL)
>> THE CATHOLIC VIEW IS THAT WE ARE RESURRECTED BODY AND SOUL. WHEN I
>> WENT TO THE OTHER SIDE - WAS TRANSPORTED - I SAW WHAT THAT MEANT.
> YOU
>> DO NOT TAKE A PHYSICAL BODY BUT YOU DO TAKE YOUR SENSES. YOUR
> SENSES
>> ARE EVER MORE PRONOUNCED AND POWERFUL, BECAUSE THEY ARE INNER
> SENSES.
>> THESE SENSES SENSE EXACTLY AS IF YOU HAD A BODY!
>> THE LIFE ON THE OTHER SIDE IS COMPLETELY SUBJECTIVE AND VARIES
>> ACCORDING TO WHAT THE PERSON EARNED IN RIGTHEOUSNESS. BUT IT ALSO
>> DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY BELIEVED AND DESIRED, WHAT MEANT THE MOST TO
>> THEM. WHATEVER THEY DESIRE AND WISH FOR, BASICALLY, ONCE THEY ARE
> IN
>> HEAVEN, IS WHAT THEY WILL GET.
>> I SAW THAT CLEARLY WHEN MUKTANANDA HAD SOME VISIONS ON THE OTHER
> SIDE,
>> SAW SOME WORLDS THERE, AND THEY WERE ALL ACCORDING TO THE HINDU
>> TRADITION AND HINDU SYMBOLS. COBRAS, WATER BUFFALOS, PEACOCKS,
>> LOTUSES, GODS AND GODDESSES, ETC. HE INSISTED THAT THAT WAS THE
> WAY IT
>> WAS AND NO OTHER WAY! THAT WAS THE WAY TO HIM, BUT NOT TO SOMEONE
> WHO
>> BELIEVED DIFFERENTLY. IT WAS REAL TO HIM, BUT NOT TO A CHRISTIAN.
>> I HAVE HEARD THE STORIES OF CHRISTIANS WHO WENT TO THE OTHER SIDE
> AND
>> GUESS WHAT - THEY SAW JESUS AND ALL THE THINGS OF JESUS THEY
> BELIEVED
>> IN AND ALLTHE DISCIPLES, ETC.
>> AND CATHOLICS? THEY SEE JESUS AND MARY, AND SAINTS.
>> I FIND IT RATHER AMUSING THAT WHEN I SAW GOD FACE TO FACE TWICE I
> SAW
>> NO PEOPLE AT ALL - NO SAINTS, NO PEOPLE. ONLY NATURE, AND I WAS
>> PERFECTLY HAPPY. THIS MIGHT INDICATE WHERE MY HEAD IS AT - WHAT IT
>> WOULD TAKE TO MAKE ME HAPPY.
>> HOWEVER, I AM CONNECTED TO JESUS AND MARY AND THEY BOTH PROMISED
> THEY
>> WOULD BE WITH ME AT DEATH AND TAKE ME TO HEAVEN. I AM ALSO IN CLOSE
>> COMMUNION WITH YOGA SAINTS AND OF COURSE, ALL KINDS OF SAINTS AND
>> ANGELS. SOMEHOW, IT WILL ALL WORK OUT AND IT WILL BE GLORIOUS.
>> MUCH LOVE TO YOU
>> SPIRITUAL MOTHER RASA
>> > I would appreciate your divine wisdom Guru Rasa. adam (at your
> feet)
>> >
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